'Friends' creating cities in my territory

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I have just started a game and was quite enjoying it until I encountered the following situation.

Another Kingdom that I have a non-agression pact with built a city inside the borders of my territory! First off I don't think that anybody should be able to build cities inside other people's territory and especially not if the two sides have a non-agression pact. If they want my territory they should have to come and take my cities off me. Doing this netted them a gold mine that was also inside my territory.

I figured that's the way the game is at the moment so I made a hard decision and decided that I couldn't accept this behaviour from them. I decided to declare war on them. Now the next probelm  rears its head. I can't declare war on them because the option is greyed out in the diplomacy menu. I thought, maybe I had to cancel the non-agression pact first, but there seems to be no way to do that.

I read in a post somewhere that you can only declare war if you have bad relations with someone. Ok - so how do I get bad relations with someone? It sure felt like the relations had gone severely down hill.

Now I am stuck with no way to retaliate against what is basically a blatant act of war.

Can anyone offer a suggestion as to how I can get out of this situation? He has more pioneers heading in to my territory now and for all I know he could start building right next to my capital and I won't be able to do anything about it.

I suppose I could use the same exploit and build in his territory too but I really don't want to play a game like that. I have every faith that Stardock will fix these problems but for now this is a game breaker for me.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

 

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

Sorry never happened to me ...

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

Are you saying that within your territory they built a new city? Or they built a new city near your territory that ended up taking resources from you?

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

It was built inside my borders. This screenshot shows pretty clearly where my borders would have been before they built it. I had already developed the gold mine.

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Never happened to me. They only try to steal my resources by building a road of buildings toward a resource at the border and then it gets included into a city....

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

It's possible that when the pioneer started out towards that spot it was not in my territory but expanded later. Their nearest city is a fair way away.

However they should have changed course once it became mine. I also should be able to declare war on them somehow.

Anyone know how I can declare war on them? Currently the option is greyed out. I hope the answer isn't that I need to research the ability to declare war. Everyone else seems to be able to declare war on me without any trouble.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting stuntpope, reply 5
Anyone know how I can declare war on them? Currently the option is greyed out. I hope the answer isn't that I need to research the ability to declare war. Everyone else seems to be able to declare war on me without any trouble.
End of stuntpope's quote

NAPs are set for 99 turns, IIRC. At the end of that time, you can go kill him.

 

Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top

The level 10/11 mega spells work well to. 1 shot a sov by planting a volcano under him... that'll teach you to forge an alliance with me! }:)

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

Reminds me of Civ 3. When the AI would sneak a settler through your zone of control and plant a colony in the middle of your country.

Reply #10 from Elemental Forums Top

Yeah it reminds me of civilization too. It was always the thing I disliked about that game.

I guess I'll have to wait the 99 turns then. Is there any feedback in the game that tells you how long a treaty has been in effect or how long it has to go?