Archer's

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Ok real noob quiestion here i can't seem to get bows to create archers? What am i doing wrong war techs has been as high as 12 or 15 cant remember which but still no bows. any help would be sweet, thanks

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

Wierd...

The technology they come off of is Equipment if I recall correctly. Equipment should unlock Archers for research. Of course, I'm not sure how the techtrees differ, so what works for me may not work for you... best you mention which Faction you're playing as (or what race you chose for a custom if you're playing a custom).

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Ranged combat has to be studied - then advanced ranged combat for the longbow.   not sure on the exact path to take to get to them - but i've never had a problem -  going for equipment - weapons - etc in no particular order until the bows come up....  sorry for not being more help -  I think there is a flow chart of the progression of techs some where.

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Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

For a kingdom it's weapons - ranged combat - advanced ranged combat

For empires it's offence and then either weapons of slaying or piercing weapons, can't remember exactly which.

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

Really Archery can be discovered at lv3-4 of Warfare (don't remember strictly).

However maybe it's random... some techs are not opened for given game.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Xommep, reply 5

However maybe it's random... some techs are not opened for given game.
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Looking through the xml files containing the techs, they all have their <AppearanceChance> set to 100, so they should all show up all of the time.  Obviously StarDock built in the ability to have them randomly not show up for a given game (by setting the number to something smaller), but it isn't actually happening in the game yet.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

Ranged also appears to be a bit weak. I regularily seem to miss or do really piddly damage with archers.

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Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

why they have the short bow is beyong me who uses it

Reply #10 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting SqueekyRat, reply 8
Ranged also appears to be a bit weak. I regularily seem to miss or do really piddly damage with archers.

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Something I've noticed about ranged units.  There maybe a hidden secondary range along with the maximum range.  I've noticed that I can't hit things for crap if targets are out near the maximum range but if the targets come closer, say 4-5 tiles from the range units, they actually start hitting properly.

 

I'm not going to give details but during the campaign I had a group of 8 archers absolutely murder a high armor value target when it was only about 4 tiles away.  Before that point they couldn't hit the thing even if it was a barn.  It also had a lot of HP and my archers were capable of reliably hitting it multiple times for quite a bit of damage once it got close.