Creating new units vs upgrading existing designs

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At the start of the game (1.01), I went to design a new unit. There are two weapons available, a club that gives 2 attack, and a staff that gives 3.

When I design a new unit, it has the same attack as the weapon - 2 with club, 3 with staff. But when I upgrade the basic Peasant design, it has 1 more (3 with club, 4 with staff), the extra point is explained as "base attack". Is it a bug that when you design a new unit there is no "base attack" or I'm missing something? Also when upgrading the Peasant the Travelling Boots are available, but when creating a new units they aren't - sounds like another bug.

I also have some other questions:

1. How does the Vengeance Coating work?

2. Do the Scout Pack and Messenger Pack have any effect other than the extra stats?

3. Is it a feature or a bug that a unit can have more than one pack?

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top


When I design a new unit, it has the same attack as the weapon - 2 with club, 3 with staff. But when I upgrade the basic Peasant design, it has 1 more (3 with club, 4 with staff), the extra point is explained as "base attack". Is it a bug that when you design a new unit there is no "base attack" or I'm missing something? 
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Had the same question myself. 

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

I'm not sure if it's consider a bug but some of the base units are slightly more powerful than custom ones.

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

How does the Vengeance Coating work?

I'd really like to know myself because at the moment it doesn't seem to be doing anything. I thought I had to activate it in combat but nope.

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting abomination5, reply 2
I'm not sure if it's consider a bug but some of the base units are slightly more powerful than custom ones.
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How does this make sense at all? It's a bug. 

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

Yes this is a good question.

Any one know?

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

The extra stats/equipment options after upgrading have to be bugs, else there's no point in ever creating a custom unit from scratch.

2. Do the Scout Pack and Messenger Pack have any effect other than the extra stats?

3. Is it a feature or a bug that a unit can have more than one pack?
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As far as I know, those two packs are just extra stats - this is really something that needs to be better documented though, as some packs (pioneer, for example), do give extra effects, and some are just stats. And multiple packs is clearly a feature until a patch that declares it a bug and fixes it :P

Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting db0, reply 3

How does the Vengeance Coating work?


I'd really like to know myself because at the moment it doesn't seem to be doing anything. I thought I had to activate it in combat but nope.
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IIRC it's the same as the ability - it boost damage when you counter attack.

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

I've noticed the same issues with default units vs. user created. o_O

 

Also; I tried a game as Resolyn last night and their faction bonus of +10 hp to all units only works for peasants.  It seemed like a big bonus for the whole faction so I'm not sure if it is a bug or not.

Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

I'd like to know why and how the game gave me Peasants with 13 hp and Observers with 5 hp. The only equipment difference I could see was the staff/club.