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Join Date 07/2003

[BUG] Minor enemy cities don't grow beyond level 1

I'm playing the freestyle (non-campaign) game. I went to war with the only other enemy I've found (after 875 turns!); a minor enemy with a single, un-improved, level 1 city. After killing him and taking his city, the city refuses to grow beyond level 1.

At one point I had 158/50 citizens, so I demolished all the housing, which dropped me down to 40/50. I figured maybe if I crossed the 50 threshhold again it'd trigger the level-up process. But it didn't. I'm currently at 58/50 and still level 1.

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It's intentional, minors don't grow. The only benefit is they usually allow you to recruit unique troops; if you're of the right alignment.

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875 turns? Seriously?

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On this note is there any way to disband/raze your own cities? I captured a minor one as well and want to get rid of it as its in the middle of nowhere

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Does the bug still exist where captured minor-faction cities won't grow?

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Yeah, that's the bug I was talking about when I opened the thread. I get that the minor cities are designed to stay size 1. That's fine. But once I capture them I expect them to act as one of my own cities, and grow from there. Otherwise I have every incentive to 'port in a pioneer, raze the captured city, and refound a new one. It's just silly to have a forced-size-1 city; it's of no other use than a staging ground for invasion of neighboring territory.

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Quoting Archonsod,

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It's intentional, minors don't grow. The only benefit is they usually allow you to recruit unique troops; if you're of the right alignment.

Yeahhhhhh.... this is a game with 9 opponents. I met one finally in turn 935 or so. But apparently diplomacy isn't implemented in the pre-release version because it claims I haven't met any foreign powers. Anyways, god knows where the other 8 are. I think this guy I found killed one of the other 8 near the beginning, but I haven't heard a peep from any of the others.

Just how big is the largest map size, anyways???

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Those minor factions don't seem to appear in the diplomacy screen, but you can negotiate with them by taking your sovereign there for a chat.

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Quoting tlvs,

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Those minor factions don't seem to appear in the diplomacy screen, but you can negotiate with them by taking your sovereign there for a chat.

Right, I assumed they weren't part of diplomacy. But I've met an actual rival empire, and I have no diplomacy options and the game tells me I haven't met any yet. But I'm standing on his borders and he won't let me in unless I declare war. And I can be sure its a major power because his borders are huge, and this is the guy who's built 2 world wonders so far. Buuuuut, no diplomacy options.

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You can't cross borders without non-aggression pact. Try to see a hero unit to yell to from the border

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Quoting Zorbane,

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On this note is there any way to disband/raze your own cities? I captured a minor one as well and want to get rid of it as its in the middle of nowhere

Yes, you can raze your cities. I razed a couple that I captured from an enemy. You just go into the town and the option is in there somewhere. I don't have the game up so don't remember where it was exactly, but it wasn't hard to find.

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God, 900 turns? Im playing on a large map too..thats awesome...

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Quoting dawgs4ever,

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Quoting Zorbane, reply 3On this note is there any way to disband/raze your own cities? I captured a minor one as well and want to get rid of it as its in the middle of nowhere

Yes, you can raze your cities. I razed a couple that I captured from an enemy. You just go into the town and the option is in there somewhere. I don't have the game up so don't remember where it was exactly, but it wasn't hard to find.

Click on the city to select it, then click on the Portrait icon in the toolbar at the bottom of the screen. This brings up the city's Hiergamanon entry summarizing the city's stats. On the left side you'll see buttons to improve the city, train units in the city, and rename the city. The last button on the list will allow you to raze the city. AFAICT the raze option is only available if you have two or more cities.

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It's intentional, minors don't grow. The only benefit is they usually allow you to recruit unique troops; if you're of the right alignment.

Adding to this; they will likely have things they shouldn't(Crystal without a crystal patch, for instance). Burn the city, lose that, forever.

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