Memory Error on 32bit Vista after a few hundred turns, o a side note i can finally load some (small and very early) saved ames inside a loaded game.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9640553/EMOW/

This happened on my game as well.  Vista X64 4G ram.  I can repeat it every time with this save game.

SaveGame

Prefs.ini

It crashed after I exited the game also. 

debug.err

out of memory

dxdiag http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SLM2WdVv

dump: http://thedyinggrounds.com/Elemental/Elemental0_98-2010-08-01T15-46-44-598.dmp

debug: http://thedyinggrounds.com/Elemental/debug.err

autosave: http://thedyinggrounds.com/Elemental/AutoSave.EleSav

Was autosaving every 5 rounds. Crashed after 86 turns. Sound was on. Did one tactical battle only.

If Stardock can't reproduce it in-house...

1:  Do any of their test machines get the game the way we do ?   Thru Impulse?     (I know they have/need another way to test internally, but this issue smells like a result of the install process more than a result of hardware/drivers/Windows-version, etc)

2:  If they do have machines the get the game from Impulse, do they wipe the game completely between updates, or just take the lazy way and install the update on top of the prior version, like I'm sure most of us do ?     (But I suspect the devs might be purist enough to take the extra time to do it "right")

If the answer to either of the above is "no", can they install an OLD version via Impulse, then do a few updates to get to .98   ?????

I am running good old XP Home on a dusty thing.. 

i am still trying to figure how to link to dropbox files..

Todays two crashes. Don't mind the timestamp, im in sweden

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9648369/Elemental0_98-2010-08-01T19-51-58-46.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9648369/Elemental0_98-2010-08-01T22-52-03-359.zip

But i just now had another out of memory crash, approx 2.30 hours in from loaded game, approx 100 turns.. total turns was about 500...

Noted levels of memory usage:

Main menu: Around 160mb

Loading game: steadily rising to about 650Mb

From there steadily rising.. crash occurred when i attempted to save game at about 1500mb

Did not notice any particular great jumps, when doing things, since i was focusing on doing things

I noted that when i clicked at a stationed hero, selecting him, and then clicked again to deselect, memory usage was about 1-2 mb per click, and i wasn't clicking as fast as possible, but some seconds apart. the memory did not go down, as you might expect it to when doing such random clicking.

Also got quite high increase in usage when scrolling in and out of map, to and from cloth map, although the first took most, the other times (at different locations on map) was generally faster/not eating memory.

Also noted several graphical things about fullscreen when i ran in window mode, since most menu text shines through other menu's, i.e loading/saving, no progress bars for research, no image on the right hand page of spellbook at research/casting.. when in fullscreen mode.

Sorry, played this game before reading here. But it was a out of memory error that made it crash. System is Vista 32bit.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5049198/Elemental0_98-2010-07-31T20-04-27-859.zip

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5049198/AutoSave.EleSav

Hope it can be of help.

Ill try to follow your Recepie on next game Frogboy.

At this point I've gotten several OOM errors. I've stopped posting them because it seems you were getting a good flow of them. It seems a few others may have stopped posting, just thinking we're getting more of the same

My question is what is most helpful to your development teams right now? For those who have already posted, is every save and debug.err file helpful to you and should we keep posting them? Is there anything you would like us to test specifically right now (sound off, etc?). If you can't reproduce it on your end, is there any debugging software we could run in tandem with the software to give you additional memory information? What can we do to help you track this down?

I was screwing around with the map editor, and it seems the more mountains I placed the worst the lag got. OOM... I think there might be something there, it was only the mountain that would lag it I tried everything else.

My next test is to make a map with no mountains at all and see the result, I will keep you informed

Any word from Stardock???

I can't play the game like this, at all.

Excellent questions.  I, for one, have stopped posting dumps, but will start again if the developers think it would help.  I have been playing with sound off and am still getting the problem, so if there's anything else we can try I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks. Annoyingly the game runs bugging windowed.

I have a dual monitor setup so I can watch the changes in game as they happen on task manager, the most significant things that happen is, the first time you open the research panel, it goes up from 460 to 580k memory usage, but I don't think thats it, whatever is happening I can determine happens early in the game, the only thing that significantly slowed down the game for me so far is researching basic equipment, it snail paced turns, and from that point the game became extremely slow, so what I'm going to do is attempt to go through all the research without the war tree, and see if that helps, I will custom a map with just me and a bunch of resources around me so I can do this.