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Okay, second update is up

much better

July 29, 2010 5:57:11 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

We got the second update with all the new maps and such in. So we should be good to go.

If you experience any problems, report them. Even if you think they're known. Also, if you find you can't do something report it even if you think it's "user error". In the beta, our policy is that there is no such thing as user error. Just bad UI design.

Just make sure you post your debug.err (at the very least) and if applicable your dump file if you had a crash.

Note: The only crash bugs we are aware of is when you're doing a new game within a game or switching between editor and game or vice versa.

We consider anything than rock solid going forward as unacceptable.  In fact, I am preemptively returning Elemental to the store for a refund just to drive home the point.

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Reply #1 July 29, 2010 6:05:41 PM
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The 2nd update must hate me.

I just checked and it says no update available, yet others seem to have it?

Will keep checking.

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Reply #2 July 29, 2010 6:08:45 PM
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LoL...if you do that make a video of it. That would be a riot...RofL. I can see it now....

Frogboy: "Hi, I'd like a refund on this crap game you sold me please."

Gamestop kid: "Umm, aren't you Brad Wardell? Hey, your company made this game!!!"

Frogboy: "Which is why I want a refund!!! It's a tax write off!!!"

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Reply #3 July 29, 2010 6:28:13 PM
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That's it, BACK TO THE STORE!

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Reply #4 July 29, 2010 6:38:21 PM
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ok, how do i know i got the second update?  is there a version number beyond .98? like .985?  i downloaded one update, but was the second one folded into the first so if you were to come in now you would only get one?  i think i came in and downloaded real close to the second. not sure if got it before or after it was put up.

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Reply #5 July 29, 2010 6:38:48 PM
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Quoting Frogboy,
reply 3
That's it, BACK TO THE STORE!

LoL

Seriously though, anyone who would want a refund for Elemental would be a dumbass in my book. You guys did an Amazing job here.

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Reply #6 July 29, 2010 6:40:59 PM
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The Map Editor seems to me that it's not working properly.

 

I choose tiles, objects, anything... Click on the map... Nothing happens. I've tried left clicking, right clicking, etc...

 

Then, suddenly, I could place some roads, build a mountain (although I could choose it's height).

 

Then the same happened, couldn't place anything on the map. The cursors changes shape, indicating what will be placed on the map, but nothing happens when I click.

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Reply #7 July 29, 2010 6:42:03 PM
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It's still 0.98 (0.98.085 I believe to be exact).

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Reply #8 July 29, 2010 6:56:57 PM
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Should we be able to test that we have the new version by trying to load a map? Impulse is saying I have all the updated yet when I try to load a map the list is blank.

I loaded the initial update first, tried the tile editor, then quit.

Later I loaded the smaller second update and tried playing the game. The lack of maps in the load list has me a little worried and you said in one of my bug posts that the issue I was experiencing was corrected in the second update - which is the one I thought I was playing when I had the issues.

A bit confused, sorry.

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Reply #9 July 29, 2010 7:02:34 PM
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Hey, I have a complaint.  Every time, and I mean EVERY SINGLE time, you guys release an update we get a thunderstorm.  How the heck are you guys controlling the weather?  Are you checking the Weather Channel and seeing if a storm heads this way?  Freaky I tell's ya!  Oh, and don't hand me any of this, "'Hey, we don't control the weather,' stuff either. 

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Reply #10 July 29, 2010 7:31:10 PM
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Quoting Admiral100,
reply 9
Hey, I have a complaint.  Every time, and I mean EVERY SINGLE time, you guys release an update we get a thunderstorm.  How the heck are you guys controlling the weather?  Are you checking the Weather Channel and seeing if a storm heads this way?  Freaky I tell's ya!  Oh, and don't hand me any of this, "'Hey, we don't control the weather,' stuff either. 

 

Are you in Arizona too, or is it just a coincidence that there was a major storm here right when they updated?

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Reply #11 July 29, 2010 7:34:42 PM
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I have problems downloading this Beta.

First attempt it stopped at 100.0% (112.25MB/112.30MB) with the little circle going eternally in circles. I closed Impulse and re-opened it.

Second attempt it is now stopped at Verifying (more than 10min now) with the little circle going eternally in circles.

I'm going to bed. Shall try again tomorrow.

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Reply #12 July 29, 2010 7:46:24 PM
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Thanks for the update of the update.

However, when I load the game, then go to the workshop, then Tile Editor, all I get is a black screen and not responding. It doesn't crash, it just does nothing. This is on windows 7 on both my desktop and laptop.

If I got to the map editor, I get my choices, a screen comes up with the menu items for it, but nothing can be done and it locks up.

 

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Reply #13 July 29, 2010 7:49:24 PM
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Quoting Blaze of Glory,
reply 12
Thanks for the update of the update.

However, when I load the game, then go to the workshop, then Tile Editor, all I get is a black screen and not responding. It doesn't crash, it just does nothing. This is on windows 7 on both my desktop and laptop.

If I got to the map editor, I get my choices, a screen comes up with the menu items for it, but nothing can be done and it locks up.

 

 

I get the same except mine crashes after locking up. 

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Reply #14 July 29, 2010 7:52:26 PM
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Quoting SpaghettiMon,
reply 10

Quoting Admiral100, reply 9Hey, I have a complaint.  Every time, and I mean EVERY SINGLE time, you guys release an update we get a thunderstorm.  How the heck are you guys controlling the weather?  Are you checking the Weather Channel and seeing if a storm heads this way?  Freaky I tell's ya!  Oh, and don't hand me any of this, "'Hey, we don't control the weather,' stuff either. 
 

Are you in Arizona too, or is it just a coincidence that there was a major storm here right when they updated?

 

Nope, over to the east of ya in Tennessee.  And no joke, every update big storm like clockwork, although I think it's finally dissipated.  The yard needed the rain, the computer can do without the lightning . 

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Reply #15 July 29, 2010 9:15:03 PM
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Ok, after rebooting, I can start a game. Apparently if I go into the workshop., I am am some lower level of hell I cannot get out of.

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Reply #16 July 29, 2010 9:32:50 PM
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Quoting Das123,
reply 8
Should we be able to test that we have the new version by trying to load a map? Impulse is saying I have all the updated yet when I try to load a map the list is blank.

I loaded the initial update first, tried the tile editor, then quit.

Later I loaded the smaller second update and tried playing the game. The lack of maps in the load list has me a little worried and you said in one of my bug posts that the issue I was experiencing was corrected in the second update - which is the one I thought I was playing when I had the issues.

A bit confused, sorry.

O.k., this is creepy, because even in Massachusetts, this statement holds true. We're dealing with some Mary Shelley sh*t right here. Creation fueled by raw "Elemental" powers, LMAO!

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Reply #17 July 29, 2010 9:34:20 PM
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And apparently I quoted the wrong post, lol.

Quoting Admiral100,
reply 9
Hey, I have a complaint.  Every time, and I mean EVERY SINGLE time, you guys release an update we get a thunderstorm.  How the heck are you guys controlling the weather?  Are you checking the Weather Channel and seeing if a storm heads this way?  Freaky I tell's ya!  Oh, and don't hand me any of this, "'Hey, we don't control the weather,' stuff either. 

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Reply #18 July 29, 2010 9:48:59 PM
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Ok, after crashing and burning of the editors in win 7. I rebooted and could start a new game. The editors still crash. Not windows has encountered an error, just hangs.

 

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Reply #19 July 29, 2010 9:52:01 PM
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The editors feel very Beta_2_ish  for example:

   Frequent crashing in the map editor... I couldn't even load the map BoogieBac created without crashing to the desktop... I eventually was able to load the map.

   While placing stuff on a map is simple there's no easy function for editing what's placed on the map.   That's like having action figures which cannot move and always wearing the same clothes.

   Having roads cross over a river do not create bridges... I don't even see bridges in the game.

   Independents only have one single behavior type called Wander !!  Where's all the other behaviors such as guard area, berserk, scouting, patrol, etc., etc., ??

   Generating or loading multiple maps causes the maps to be wiped clean... try generating 5 different maps and see what happens... then try generating 10 maps and so on... results keep getting worse.

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Reply #20 July 29, 2010 9:53:21 PM
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So far rock solid, I have not messed with the tools and I am not to far into my first game on the new New update. I am so fricking excited to just be able to play a smooth running version! I know it can't last!! Twitch Twitch, damn I got bug on me!!!

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Reply #21 July 29, 2010 11:21:44 PM
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I have problems downloading this Beta.

First attempt it stopped at 100.0% (112.25MB/112.30MB) with the little circle going eternally in circles. I closed Impulse and re-opened it.

Second attempt it is now stopped at Verifying (more than 10min now) with the little circle going eternally in circles.

I'm going to bed. Shall try again tomorrow.

same haven't gotten by the verifying point since 3pm....i've restarted it a few times, i'll try again later

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Reply #22 July 29, 2010 11:43:45 PM
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Impulse is still showing me 0.98 Beta at 9:39 MST, with no new updates and Elemental is still showing 0.98 as well?

 

 

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