Froggie, I am pretty sure that lot of players would love to play those epic battles [10kv10k for example].

Yeah let's hope so.

I'd like to hear it from the chief or Boogie. That way I know for sure we can Mod in those 10,000 man armies. It "May" be a Engine limitation and it just doesn't like to display that many soldiers without lagging all to hell, we don't know. I would "think" that it's just as moddable as everything else, but I'd really like to make sure.

There are two reasons mostly that I pre-ordered Elemental.

1 ) Customization, because too me that's what Stardock is known for.

2 ) MASSIVE Epic Battles.

If it isn't at Least moddable that I can display as many units as I want I'll be Highly Disappointed. Not to mention it will shoot my plans for the Dragonlance Mod all to hell and back. For the DL Mod I plan on having Hundreds of Dragons alone in one army, not counting all the other soldiers and units. If I can't Mod In epic numbers then I might as well just wait until Stardock makes it so we can have Epic Numbers. It would be better to wait then for me to have to half ass my mod because of display issues.

Edit: Also note, I've asked if that particular thing was Moddable at least 3 times in the last few weeks and haven't been answered in any of the threads where I asked that. That's a little scarey when you're planning a epic mod like I am and then the Devs dance around your question.

I've asked for details on how you give special abilities to units a couple of times without an answer either. I don't read anything into that except they're pretty busy making a game and can't reply to every forum question.

I mean in this case the techs existed in the tech tree, and were removed for balance reasons. That's why I'm confident.

It doesn't slow down if your PC is beastly enough. In any case it's apples and oranges for comparison here. Total war has to render all those units in real-time, with many special animations for units in combat. On top of this it runs all the AI routines and path-finding in the background for those units as well. Many of these obstacles are not in place for a TBS system. At any given time you are only moving one unit at a time and combat only gets calculated between the two units you've got fighting.

*hands Raven a collection of tin foil hats*

Tin Foil? Bah...that's for amateurs. Only Iridium blocks the signals the Aliens in orbit around the moon keep sending to my brain.

Now be quiet and don't throw off the topic until we get a Solid Answer on this

After we get a solid answer you can call me crazy all day long and I'll just smile and nod and say "Yes Mr Annatar, I'm nutty as a fruit cake"

WoooHooo, Thanks Chief

Ok Annatar, I'll be quiet now and sit in my corner and keep my crazyness all to my-self for the day

i dont tbh

never found a combat more fun based on how many units there were

but ofc my opinion like yours is based on assumptions since we have no clue bout elemental tactical battles

myabe in here it would be fun, who knows

lol?

you drunk?

how could this irrelevant thing change sales?

also even if told or not told on a forum it will be unknown for majority of customers

My honest opinion, the Total War game's battles are a LOT more fun when you have bigger armies instead of just a few units. That's just me though. Also, as we know, the TW games are Real Time, while Elemental is Turn Based, so the same may not apply to Elemental. It's all up to the players personal tastes.

I can tell you for certain now some people are going to Love my Dragonlance Mod, other people are going to Hate it. It's up to each person individually. I'll make sure to put plenty of Warnings in the "Read Me" for the DL Mod though...

Warning: The Dragonlance Mod Contains EPIC Amounts of Fun. If you don't like Epic Amounts of Fun with Huge Armies I would Recommend Not playing this Mod. Thank You, and have a Elemental day!!!!

Because those things aren't the problem, and changing them changes balance in other parts of the game? You're looking at something in isolation and saying "change whatever it takes to make this work", which would have dramatic impacts on everything else.

The problem is how do you balance champions against 4 units in the early game, and 10,000 later in the game? That's an astronomical amount of scaling that would lead to your champion being completely godly if you managed to get ahead of the army size curve.

Whether or not changing every number in the game to make the number you want possible is "too time consuming" is not really an opinion, and even if it is, the only opinion that matters is that of the project manager. They've got a lot of game to work on, and someone decided that it would take too much time to make the numbers work as compared to removing the huge army option. Besides, how would you even train 10,000 at once? There's no city that big to draw the people from.

They haven't shown how you make an ability then add it to a standard soldier through training, which is what I was asking about.

The game plays exactly the same if there's 40 guys in a unit or 4000 guys in a unit (except for how you balance champions against it). This is just graphical stuff.

So no, a 400 vs 400 battle isn't likely to cost many sales over a 10,000 vs 10,000 battle when the gameplay is basically identical. And hell, they changed the entire combat system midway through for gameplay reasons. That's more likely to affect sales then how many thousands of individual troops are visible on the screen at once.

well the argument of expectations makes sense

but im sure stardock will show real pictures/videos b4 release and also ppl knows they have to check them and not old ss