As I've seen all three movies now with an ex-girlfriend, I can say these are some ridiculous comedies. In my opinion, and that opinion doesn't devalue others who find enjoyment in it for other reasons.

I find myself aggravated though watching it because they are all vapid little creatures. I get the idea of a love triangle and their attempts to facilitate her falling in love with two different guys at the same time.

That doesn't make her a slut in my book. That just makes her someone who has to make some choices. But the character, of Bella is a empty suit, waiting for women to fill themselves into. So they can have that everburning love where two men are fighting for her, and she get's to be a part of the drama. And to be loved by to super men. One man who will love her for all eternity, and the other will love her with wild animal abandon, primal and unrelenting.

And then there's the option for her to become a vampire, to live a life of eternity with her never aging boyfriend. Okay, so they can be fulfilled with each other, but the triangle still persists.

I just found the movies in general to be some funny stuff. And I couldn't help but laugh half the time Jacob the werewolf walks into the screen without a shirt on. In the pacific northwest... Are you kidding me? (I understand the logic behind the mechanics of being shirtless, but really.. absurd.) And I'm not hating on it, just that even a semblance of a shirt would of been at least an attempt.

But well, I'll just accept that this is a fantasy, and one I find very funny. (Then again for True Blood, I can't stand the insipid self centered Sookie, either.)

These Twilight movies are horrible...

The whole damn Twilight thing is just a bunch of pop culture crap. It's got nothing to do with anything but sucking in teenage girls and a certain type of women who need this sort of thing. Some people need a fantasy world to be in so to speak. Andy Warhol said "When I got my first television set, I stopped caring so much about having close relationships."

 Twilight is stupid, in bad taste and there just to make money.

Again you are defeating yourself.

Sleeping with someone you dont love makes you much more of a whore as if you sleep with 2 which you love for different reasons.

It is possible to love two, each for different reasons. If you can't, thats wholly your problem.

If Bella thinks she loves both guys, and has sex with them, it doesnt make her a whore. It happens because she believes in it.

Also she is a teenager, she cant trust her own feeling yet.

Exactly!  I loved two women at the same time for different reasons.  One was my wife, and the other a mutual friend who was going through a rough time with an abusive partner.  She needed somebody to stand up for here... and I/we did.  At my suggestion, she and her 3 kids moved in with us, and during their stay I did everything I could to help and support them all.  Yeah, I loved those kids like they were my own, and I loved their mother because she was and is a special person who needed somebody to be there... not to take, but to be supportive.  And the best way to help someone who has been abused, is to be genuine in everything you say and do... and love helps us to achieve this end.

Was I naughty with this woman?  No!  A real man does not impose that kind of thing one somebody who has been abused in that way.  I mean, does a relationship have to have a sexual component to be satisfying and complete?  Of course not!  I've loved several women over the years, for the beautiful people they were inside, but only in a purely platonic way.

The woman is now married to a nice guy who treats her very well, and I believe it was the support that my wife and I provided that helped her move on with greater confidence and self-esteem.  So yeah, under the circumstances, I feel good that I loved two women... I gave something of myself to the betterment of two others.

I do see where you both are coming from, and on some level I can agree. Notice I say on "some" level. Here's the problem I have with it, maybe it's just me, but we'll see.

Say you have both a living Mother and Grandmother, like I do. I can say I love both of them, and this is true. Neither of them are my wife though (eeewww). To me, the love I have for my wife is "Unique" unto its-self. This is the kind of love two people share who know they are bonded together forever, for as long as both of them live. In my mind, it's not possible to love two people in exactly that same way. The only way it would even be possible would be if All Three of those people involved all loved each other the same way and had equal feelings towards each other. If I said I loved another woman the Same Exact Way as I love my wife, then by default I'm being unfaithful to my wife and her love for me, because it can't be "true" love.

I'm saying it's impossible to love two people at the same time, even romantically. I've been at a point in my past where I honestly loved more then one woman at a time, but the feels of that love varied. I didn't love both of them as equals. One took precedence over the other, that One, being the "truest" form of love two people can share. So, unless All Three of the people make the commitment to be tied to each other forever then I don't think any of the 3 involved would be able to say they "truly" love the other two in the Exact Same way.

I've honestly Loved many women in my life. With each of them though that particular feeling of love was slightly different. Each one was different from the last until I found my ultimate love, my wife. Seeing as how we have the lovely anonymity of the internet, I'm going to open up a little and tell you guys a story...here goes.

I was with a girl many years ago, I think I've even mentioned her before, a girl names Sera. Before Sera and I ever got together she had one or two "experiences" with other girls. Not to the point of what I would call being a lesbian nor even bi-sexual. More in the realms of what I would classify as bi-curious. Years later after these experiences she had, her and I were together and she told about them. Back then we were both young and stupid and still liked to "party" quite a bit. There were certain party...um...substances...that she would do from time to time and every time she did them and got "buzzed" to a certain point she would bring up her and I finding a girl to have "fun" with, which usually ended up being one of her close girl-friends from school. One of these girls we had fun with was named Katie.

Well, one time sera and I broke up, I can't even remember now why but I do know it was over something stupid. She ended up dating some other guy for about a month or so and I ended up going to Katie for "consolation" when Sera and I broke up. Up to that point Katie and I had a type of "friends with benefits" relationship. The "benefits" part of it only came into play when sera was in the mood for it and Katie just happened to be around. When Sera was no longer a factor in the matter, Katie and I got quite close. I developed real feelings for her and her for me. A little while later Sera realized the huge mistake she had made by breaking things off between us and of course when she dumped the other guy she wanted me back (High School Drama crap, I know). I still loved Sera, after-all we had been together off and on for 3 years at this point and were thinking about even getting married until things started going bad near the end.

So now here I was stuck. I was with Katie now, not Sera. I loved Katie, I really did. The problem was I loved Sera too, and when it came down to it, I loved Sera MORE then I loved Katie, so, I went back to Sera and Katie ended up getting hurt. A lot more bouncing back and forth happened after that but that's not really relevant here.

The point of the matter for me at least, is that even though it's possible to love more then one person at a time, it won't be "True" love.

Honestly I don't believe we humans are even meant for Monogamy on a instinctual level. Men are programed on a Genetic Level to spread our seed to as many women who will take it and thus secure the survival of our genes. Women too are genetically programs just like men are, but in a slightly different way. Women are programmed to find the "Best" man with the strongest genes so that her offspring will in turn be strong and healthy. We can see this in nature in the animal kingdom all the time. There are very few species on the planet that actually mate for life.

In fact the only 3 species on the planet that I can think of off the top of my head that practice monogamy are Dolphins, Wolves, and Humans. 2 of these don't really count though. Know which 2? Dolphins and Humans. Know why? Dolphins are the only other species on the planet that share a certain quality with humans. Dolphins, just as humans, have sex for Fun. They choose only one Mate to bear their offspring, but they will often have sex with many different members of their "pod" they travel in. Us Humans don't count because our belief in monogamy is Artificial. It was placed in our heads by the Catholic Church hundreds of years ago. <---- That I think is Very Odd because when you read the Old Testament it's Full Of Guys who had MULTIPLE wives, like Noah. According to the Bible many men back in those days had multiple wives as it was also a way to tell how successful he was in life. If he had multiple wives it was because he could "Afford to". When these men had multiple wives the ages of those wives would often very greatly. Some of them would just as old or older then the man, while many of them would be younger then the man, some even young enough to be that mans daughter (not to mention inbreeding was quite common back then).

I just don't believe it's possible to love two "Mates" in Exactly the same way emotionally. There will always be a preference of who you love more because if you think you love both of them exactly the same...then in reality you don't honestly love either of them. I know this because I love my wife to the point that I would die for her if it came down to it. I would step in front of traffic to push her out of the way even if meant I would get hit by that car/buss/truck/whatever. You can't Die for Two people because none of us are capable of dying twice. To me, in my mind, even if you love two people, you don't love them both the exact same way. Perhaps this is something that comes from age or experience, I don't know, but that's the way I see things.

Not the same emotionally, but with equal strength or intensity for sure. If you have, for easy example, a child and it is threatend by a bus you will sacrifice yourself. If its your wife in front of the bus, you will do it too. Circumstance (fate, god, devil, whatever) will decide for whom you will die. But it says nothing about you and your feelings for one or another. You love each one equally, you will die for both.

And i do believe that a man can love two women, or a women can love two man, equally.

We have to agree to disagree, it seems.

Jacob's just in love with her eggs, anyway.  So it's not like she has a real choice to make..

Only got one thing to add:

The bigger the hit, the hard it suck

(Couldn't get the bugger to embed properly)

haha good find snowy!

Just watched Twilight...What a wast of time!! I haven't any idea what all the hubub is. And those kids aren't even handsome.

Sheesh

Yes, apparently pasty, mopey whiners who never wash their hair are all the rage with teenage girls (and some middle-aged women) these days.  Go figure.