New idea. For Depth.

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It seems to me that though theirs a good bit of stats and alot of special spells etc.

Melee/combat orientated soverigns lack the edge. and so do magical for special traits.

 

So Wouldn't it be nice if everyfew levels we got to pick a special talent/trait? For all champions and heirs as well as the soveriegn *sov's get some special traits* these would range from leadership bonuses *slight bonuses to each soldier in the army thus making the soverign more important for large scale battles* to magical range extension or infusing ones weapons with magic etc. all sorts of things to the more subtle like merchantile and guile allowing people to get extra income or to persuade others into joining the empire cheaper etc.

 

I apologize for my general lack of grammar and my slightly haphazard examples it simply just occured to me and i wanted the community's input.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

Sounds good, but wouldnt it get a little out of hand after a while? I mean having to specificly choose each of your hero's and heir's trait.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

Perhaps only for heirs and soveriegns? and you could set it to autoleveling or something.

 

I just want the ability for the sov maybe not anyone else but him if it comes to it.

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

I wish your heirs could replace your sovereign, from what I've been reading/seeing on videos, when your sovereign dies with 0 essence, that's it. Seems like that would place proper value on the family/heirs.

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

I believe something like this was announced in a recent dev journal

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

To reply to Jerome i believe they do intend to allow heirs to replace the sov.

Thank you Kellen i will look at the journal now.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

Just on the thought of the Sovereign being replaced. Personally I Like that. A LOT. 

 

That having been said, I can also see others who want to play a near immortal sovereign who sires a great lineage and remains married. 

 

But for me.. I want the sovereign to pass after a time so he can then pass his "Power" down the line to the next worthy heir, irregardless of gender. Who then continues to pass down the power throughout the generations. To me, that would be frakkin' toasterific awesomesauce.

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Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Gorstagg, reply 6
Just on the thought of the Sovereign being replaced. Personally I Like that. A LOT. 

 

That having been said, I can also see others who want to play a near immortal sovereign who sires a great lineage and remains married. 

 

But for me.. I want the sovereign to pass after a time so he can then pass his "Power" down the line to the next worthy heir, irregardless of gender. Who then continues to pass down the power throughout the generations. To me, that would be frakkin' toasterific awesomesauce.

End of Gorstagg's quote

I was thinking something potentially along the lines of what they have in the more recent Total War games where your sovereign marries has and has kids.

In regards to Elemental, you get to chose your spouse (in TW, you get whatever spouse your king, etc managed to find on their own when you aren't playing puppet master :P).The children of your king age and then eventually mature and become general's that you can send around the map to lead armies etc. They can in turn marry and produce their own offspring which will perpetuate the cycle. Typically there is a designated heir based on the european model of first born son, etc.

I don't profess to be a scholar of Elemental's Lore (actually I don't know much besides the basics) nor do I currently have access to any of the Beta builds, but I would recommend that sovereign's children either inherit their parent (sovreign)'s ability as a channeler either as a equal state, or some form of weaker state (their blood has been diluted by a none channeler's genetic material (spouse of sovereign).The weaker state may be harder to implement (how to reduce spell efficacy, etc.) in addition to leading to potential more weakening issues if the children mate and produce additional offspring. This could be implemented as the penalty for getting your sovereign killed off, while not completely bringing your game to a crashing halt.

It would be interesting if you could utilize your sovereign's children as diplomatic trade chits to so speak to cement diplomatic ties with another empire/kingdom through marriage, but this may be getting too in-depth, and Stardock may not want to implement too many ideas that "borrow/copy" from another game.

I believe this would add a dynamic facet to the game. (sorry for my rambling post, I just let it all come out free form).

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting jerome736, reply 7
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It would be interesting if you could utilize your sovereign's children as diplomatic trade chits to so speak to cement diplomatic ties with another empire/kingdom through marriage, but this may be getting too in-depth, and Stardock may not want to implement too many ideas that "borrow/copy" from another game.

I believe this would add a dynamic facet to the game. (sorry for my rambling post, I just let it all come out free form).
End of jerome736's quote

In a sense, this is one of the aspects that was spoken of. That it would be a bit like Game of Thrones, inter-marrying the families, until you supplant their liege upon their death, because that child is beholden to your family line and what not.

Brad mentioned it in a post a while back where he talked about that as one of the ways to win the game in a sense, and in a smart not showing everyone your hand sort of way until people all over start turning their kingdoms over to you.