[DISCUSSION] Sovereigns

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Out of the pre-made Sovereigns, only one is something of a traditional Wizard. The rest are more warrior type with backgrounds like Miner or Thief. Now having a warrior sovereign is cool but I have to wonder..

The title of the game is War of Magic. In the beginning the Sovereign is already a powerful channeler with the ability to bring life back into the barren land. Does not sound like a small feat by a longshot. With that kind of power I would expect them to have other knowledge of magic as well instead of being just a soldier. What about later on when global magical warfare steps in. Won't it be much more important to have a powerful spellcaster Sovereign than one that has a high strength or few HP more?

A Sovereign like Sauron with massive melee power would be cool. But surely that could be achieved by magical might rather than putting points in strength and dexterity? In fact I would like to see any superhuman abilities gained through magic and sustained spells rather than just boosting your abilities leveling up. So it should be more about Essence and shard control than physical attributes.

It just seems to me the Sovereigns are so far above the power level of ordinary humans and that mundane skills are insignificant compared to the magical powers they can wield.

I could see myself picking a "Warrior" background trait/feat for my Sovereign to make him a skilled combatant but rather focusing on the magical aspects of his development after sovereign creation - to wage the War of Magic.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

I agree with what you're saying but I think it's too early to discuss the spellcasting prowess of the sovereigns in Beta, given they can only cast one spell at the moment.

I envisage that by the end game most sovereigns are powerful spellcasters whilst few remain wholly warrior/generals.

Again, remains to be seen.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

For the warrior ones, their magical power is what props them up and makes them into super warriors. :) Procepionee isn't nearly as powerful in combat as the others, but she seems able to learn pretty well every spell in the game (based on the spellbooks she has access to).

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Am I the only one who finds it out of place that "General Carrodus" is a Sovereign instead of being a general commanding the Sovereign's armies? I just think the Sovs should be more wizardly even if they are also warriors.

And yeah since it should and probably will be the magical power that turns them into super warriors why would they need to be so warrior-like to begin with? They are spellcasters first and foremost.

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

As I understand it the Sovereigns are imbued with magic power, but not necessarily proficient wizards. Hence why it costs essence to restore the land and not magic points; the sovereign is sacrificing part of their power to restore the land rather than casting an actual spell as such.

 

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

What's more worrying to me is how great an advantage it is to have a fast-moving sovereign early on...

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

Ya.  Adventurer ftw.  So much easier to catch other NPCs (for hire), avoid creeps, scout town locations, etc.

Just don't pick up one of those damn noblechildren yourself.  Get the cripple to escort them.

Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Archonsod, reply 4
As I understand it the Sovereigns are imbued with magic power, but not necessarily proficient wizards. Hence why it costs essence to restore the land and not magic points; the sovereign is sacrificing part of their power to restore the land rather than casting an actual spell as such.

 
End of Archonsod's quote

Good point! :)

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

Evrything nice, but we have kids:) What about them? They can get part of powers from mom and dad(more units with build city skill), get gifted in combat or magic. Just as you wish :) You can also school them, it is really streang that prince is weaker then normal person with good gear. They was rised in castels(addidtional quests), they have been educated(quests), and in the end, royal hunts :) (quests posibility). So that leavs that our king, or quen can be a fighter style in the end.

Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

Look at it like this; your sovereign is a great warrior who is imbued with great power but because of this great cataclysm almost all knowledge has been lost or scattered.  So while he has the potential to be an archmage he has learned to use his physical prowess because there wasn't anyone around to research and teach him how to utilize his magical abilities.

 

So when you found a couple cities and your scholars find some magical spells your sovereign will learn them and become more than a powerful warrior/general.