That's actually a picture of Brad in-game.

It's concept art, so not the final.

Heres the thing about concept art... The game never actually ends up looking like it. Sure, it may resemble it, but in game it will probably look very dissimilar.

Hehe... although... to me that image yells 'Sam Gamgee!' Dunno why...

Sure, that concept would probably just influence in the picture when you choose to produce a worker if at all and if thats possible. In the gameplay it's another thing. Just a concept like said.

Cloths look real to me, something that could be used and looks well attached/blended. Face seems to me like a commom character that could be amongst the populance, like it should. Prioritize the cloths.

I like the face from that character because the heavy-brown-bearded-worker-that-you-barely-can-see-the-face that looks like the dwarve from Lord of the Rings, have been overused like it is in Setllers. This one gives a better realistic feel of a human to me than those. To multiplicy workers tough, you need a character with less distinctive looks unlike this one and more like the bearded worker or they will feel to much like the same. But in this game (strategy games) you don't see character looks aside from the wearing, that also apply to warriors. What is the most important, like for the warriors, is the wearing. They don't have a distinctive face but are all alike or bound to have any face. The face, even tough fine to me, was just to complement the concept that is basically the vestments. I think thats why they used the producer hair, to maybe joke a little, that is the only thing alike if I remember.

Yeah I totally agree with you keith, if people can't see what's wrong with that picture then...errrr, I guess there's no real scope for debate. I'm generally totally in favour with the art style the game is going for but this just happens to be a bit of a weak example... man I hope the guy/girl who drew it doesn't read this... on second thought it's great, good for you

Well, that shoulder seems to be holding the weight of his satchel and maybe even the tools on his back. So maybe the pauldron is just an exagerated shoulder pad.

He could just have a loose grip on the pickaxe... You know, so the weight of the metal part pulls it down until the shaft is held down by his palm. Doesn't seem so unbelievable to me.

This is where my explanations run out

I agree that the worker concept art isn't very good. I do actually like the overall style of it, though, but the implementation wasn't so great. Like you said the pose looks unnatural, and it's overall just not so good. But to take the worst piece of concept art and a screenshot of the game a year and a half before predicted release, one that doesn't even include lighting or shadows or probably even final art, and to "do you need artists?" is kind of silly.

Although what they did with that picture and how it looks on the Medallions are quite a bit different, and much better looking.

As far as art goes, I favor "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".  I wouldn't claim that concept art as beautiful, but I don't think it's bad.  If it was a final product and the best that could be made, I'd have a problem, but that's not the case.

I'm sure SD could use more artists, but I think the issue has to do with paying them and that they probably would also need to live in exotic Michigan.

Games and movies tend to esterotype things so much, that anything aside what people used to see seems weird. One thing is for sure, this worker is not the usual type we see. If they made it has a joke, I don't care because I liked something from it. What bothers is things being the same over and over. That is a plausible worker. Just because he is a worker doesn't mean he should look like someone who live at the streets and have no vanity whatsoever so to brush his hair before going to work. I like it more than the image of the Shaman. At a first moment tough, the worker was strange for me, but thats because like I said, I got used to see esterotypes so much. And this same thing over and over is boring. If that worker is weird, look yourselves a bit more at the mirror or go over the streets. People are different. Its getting tiring to see things being used over and over just because they are already confortable for the eye.

You know, its much easier for an artist to make a beliaveble good looking character than a commom one who have imperfections and still looks real and plausible. Thats why I liked more (and some others) the girl character in Portal. And actors considered gorgeous being used over and over at movies and doing only roles where they are godlike or perfection, I usualy skip that crap. Adam Sandler is one of the greatest director/actor of time that hold a strong integrity. He have notion of that. A single movie he did, worth all the movies Brad Pitty will ever be into in his life which have no values. Why do people need to be so stupid to only feel confortable with what is perfect and unnatural even when themselves are not that? Thats pathetic, there is a lot of sympathy for that worker. I not 100% sure if they would brush the hair like that in older times (tought I really think they could), but his anatomy is beleaveble, and a lot considering that is an alpha image.

It's like that people that are crazy about mangás (different from likeing) where almost everyone are human of unreal perfection. How pleased I would be to trow that retarded minds into garbage. How can someone worship that. It's the kind of thing that are just there to trow people out of what could be the beauty of reality and see natural/real things has inferior. Lets do a big cosplay movement. Now there is a group doing a movement contrary of that, with everyone with their own commom faces and thats about showing the differences there are in the world and that people should be careful to not be corrupted by draws, movies and propagandas that hire any "generally assumed has 'gifted' good looking person" even when lacking skill. There is a dumb big demand for that.

There is a new game from playstation (Fat Princess) comming that features a princess that suffers of obesity and likes to eat a lot. She was captured and is in prison, Its hard to save her because of her weight, still many are trying to save her from captive. Go see over the internet how stupid feminists was against the game featuring a fat princess. I have read in one site, a woman was talking against the game, and by the end said that was afraid her little and pretty doughter would see that and want to be like the princess. We know how many "idiots"(low age need to be excluded) suffer from eating dissorder because of the models and skinny princesses right? That is deviating to hide bad ideals not even herself can assume, what could happen of that is a girl be more acceptable to her weight if she can't change it. They want Sonny to cancel the game. One of them wrote for sonny and said: "I can't imagine anyone that wants to save a fat princess in the first place". Thing is, in the game they want to save the princess at all costs, and a side gives her food to eat to allow her not to be saved. They claim that is being desrespectful at fat people. I have seem at gamespot people there are fat and told that do not mind of that but instead think its cute to have it. It's feminists that not even are overweighted saing that, truth is that they don't like fat, they are the ones with the prejudice. Not many games have princesses (and characters that are means of holding power or be the protagonist) that is not perfect or not very gifted in looks and thats is disgusting for culture when abused.

Thats why I simpathyze with the worker. It looks normal and kind of natural, it's weirdly hard to find designs that look for that (some reasons for it, because it's harder to do and wrongly less disired).

This all sounds familiar!!!!

That's you exactly. And you think that because it's little to nothing you can understand. Skip my posts, it's what I usually always do to yours.

And so the Great Flame Wars began...

Speaking of ignoring posts, I saw a feature in Impulse where you could Blacklist users.  I assume this allows you to effectively block/ignore posts from particular users.  Is that true?  If so, any chance we might see this feature in the forums?

Yeah, why can't we discuss something interesting? Something we can all agree on. Like scientology?

Don't forget food, sex, and television. Everyone's so agreeable about them.