Skinny Desire

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"The French parliament's lower house adopted a groundbreaking bill Tuesday that would make it illegal for anyone _ including fashion magazines, advertisers and Web sites _ to publicly incite extreme thinness."

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2007 Spain banned the ultra thin models from cat walks.

 

I read this yesterday and couldn't get it out of my head.  I don't know how any legislation might be enforced...one woman's skinny is another woman's fat.

The picture associated with this link is sickening. 

Personally, I say bring on the fat chicks.

Wouldn't it be nice to see what clothes look like on real women?  You know the NON 6 foot 100 pound waifs of the world with curves where a girl otta have curves?

I've always wondered who the fashion designers are targeting...women in 3rd world countries who are starving?  The women from the show "Survivor" after a full season on the island?  Pre-pubescent girls with fingers in their throats?

Do these people have money to spend on couture?  Sure maybe after being able to out wit, out last, and out play starvation.

If this is legislated.....

I can imagine the skinny police showing up to check fat levels...and the models running to the doughnut table instead of the bathroom....eat! eat! eat!

"Oh my god, I only gained 2 pounds last night!  You can still see all my ribs!  What am I going to do?  I might not be able to work in France!  I will be forced to work with the barbaric Americans!  Oh noooooooo."

 

With all the problems we have in the world today...yes, lets do take an inordinate amount of time to legislate skinny. 

 

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
one woman's skinny is another woman's fat.
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That is the achilees heel in the whole stupidity. And you are right. Like there are not enough real problems without making some up.

Maybe France can now exterminate all the people in Darfur - in the name of the law!
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

 

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

In a place where people are being paid to model, extreme thinness should be illegal.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I like curves on my ladies...and not the ones on the ribcage. *blech*

The extreme thinness stuff is ridiculous. If a light breeze can kick your ass, something is wrong.

~Zoo
Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

The extreme thinness stuff is ridiculous. If a light breeze can kick your ass, something is wrong.
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Yeah I know what ya mean.  I've never met a guy who says...man I LOVE feeling your bones grinding into my flesh when we hug.

At the same time, there is a happy medium...its not all skinny or fat. 

In a place where people are being paid to model, extreme thinness should be illegal.
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Care to elaborate?

 

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

According to a number of different news sources, if passed 'anyone who publically encourages anorexia or sever weight loss could be jailed or fined up to $47,000'.  The bill also applies to models of both sexes.

Like there are not enough real problems without making some up.
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I don't know whether you're trying to be funny but this is a very real problem and definitely not 'made up'.  If this bill saves the lives of young people, then it is only a good thing. 

Maybe France can now exterminate all the people in Darfur
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Not funny, not even slightly...

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
According to a number of different news sources, if passed 'anyone who publically encourages anorexia or sever weight loss could be jailed or fined up to $47,000'.
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How can this be enforced though? What if one of those uber skinny models has some sort of disease that keeps her skinny...(is there one of those, and how do I get it? JUST KIDDING)..she won't be able to work?

I think this is all a bit silly. I do understand anorexia/bulimia are serious issues, especially with young girls. But I don't think penalizing someone because of their size (too big or too small) in public is the answer.

I have teenage nieces and we talk about how "air brushed" photos of models are....they don't believe "real" women look like that, because no matter how many magazine photos they see...the rest of their lives are lived around real women who don't look that way.

I don't think it will stop any young woman intent on hating her body image.

Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top

I don't think penalizing someone because of their size (too big or too small) in public is the answer.
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In terms of the bill, it will be the organisations who will be fined or subject to jail terms.

I don't think it will stop any young woman intent on hating her body image.
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Oh, I agree.  But that is a whole different kettle of fish. 

With this legislation, the French fashion industry, arguably the most influential in the world, won't be seen to be supporting ultra-skinny girls, who are forced to starve themselves for fear of losing their career. (I've put up a link to a particular model's story below but there are more)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/you/article.html?in_article_id=541288&in_page_id=1908

Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
If you can go out on Halloween as a skeleton without a costume, I will probably not be attracted to you.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
In terms of the bill, it will be the organisations who will be fined or subject to jail terms.
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Yeah I got that...but if they are fined, it will trickle down hill to firing the skinny girl.

With this legislation, the French fashion industry, arguably the most influential in the world, won't be seen to be supporting ultra-skinny girls, who are forced to starve themselves for fear of losing their career. (I've put up a link to a particular model's story below but there are more)
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Thanks for the link Maso. That model is gorgeous. (How much is eight and a half stone anyway? I don't think I ever want to be weighed in stones...they sound too much like BOULDERS...hahaha.)

I only make lite of this because I can't identify with not eating. I know its supposed to be about self loathing...but to me it seems more about self-centeredness. You don't see women in countries where survival is more difficult passing up the beans when its their turn to eat because "I don't want to be fat."

I think girls with eating disorders should be treated in countries where people are really starving...and not much should be said about weight at all...just let them tend to the sick and starving...let them see the open sores and flies eating them alive..let them get outside their small little worlds and see there is so much more to the world than the size of their ass.

If I sound harsh, I apologize. Every girl I've known with anorexia is a self absorbed mess and it seems more about attention sometimes than anything else.

Sorry rant over.

Back to models...if I spent my life creating beautiful clothes, I'd want beautiful women wearing them...not some sticks with dark circles under their eyes who might pass out at the smell of coffee.

I don't get it.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
If you can go out on Halloween as a skeleton without a costume, I will probably not be attracted to you
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hahahaha

I don't think skeletons go out for candy Jyth...shesh. The whole don't eat I'll get fat thing...????

hahaha
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Not funny, not even slightly...
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It was not meant to be. It was and is meant to be sarcastic and caustic. There were no smileys attached to that message or that line.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't think skeletons go out for candy Jyth...shesh. The whole don't eat I'll get fat thing...????
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I'm sure they go to Halloween parties thrown by fashion gurus.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Even with those fashionable clothes, they still look worse than the others. So what's the point of having skinny fashionable clothes if you still look like a monster from Diablo?
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
So what's the point of having skinny fashionable clothes if you still look like a monster from Diablo?
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That might appeal to hardcore Diablo fans. :P

~Zoo
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
That might appeal to hardcore Diablo fans.
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Now that you mention it.... ;) :d
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Even with those fashionable clothes, they still look worse than the others. So what's the point of having skinny fashionable clothes if you still look like a monster from Diablo?
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Because you get to WEAR skinny fashionable clothes and make a gazillion dollars an hour...which you can't spend on food....
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
I enjoyed the slide show.

I am not sure if the models we see are a force of the fashion industry being trust on us without our consent, of if they are a reflection of our ideal.

There is a lot of talk about how bad anorexia is, but I am curious how many young girls are obese v. how many are morbidly thin? Maybe we spotlight the wrong problem?

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
I enjoyed the slide show.I am not sure if the models we see are a force of the fashion industry being trust on us without our consent, of if they are a reflection of our ideal. There is a lot of talk about how bad anorexia is, but I am curious how many young girls are obese v. how many are morbidly thin? Maybe we spotlight the wrong problem?
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To me, being too skinny and being obese are both big problems. Personally I deal with the latter.

Even with those fashionable clothes, they still look worse than the others. So what's the point of having skinny fashionable clothes if you still look like a monster from Diablo?Because you get to WEAR skinny fashionable clothes and make a gazillion dollars an hour...which you can't spend on food....
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Fashionable? Peshaw...I wear whatever fits. To hell with trends.

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
There is a lot of talk about how bad anorexia is, but I am curious how many young girls are obese v. how many are morbidly thin? Maybe we spotlight the wrong problem?
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I think (and this is just opinion and observation) that there is a whole different psychology behind not eating as compared to over eating.

Anyone can fall into the habit of over eating without self loathing or self centeredness in the mix. Now once the weight is on, self loathing may start to play into it. But I don't think someone can fall into anorexia. That takes quite a bit of will power at the very least and to some degree conscious choice, at least at first.



Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Understood.

I don't want to downplay the seriousness of anorexia or the difference between anorexia and "overeating". It just seems to me like it gets far more focus and attention, when in reality so many children are overweight and not learning or living healthy habits. Not equating, really, just kind of pointing out that perhaps we need to give more attention to something that affects MORE children.

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Because you get to WEAR skinny fashionable clothes and make a gazillion dollars an hour...which you can't spend on food....
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But they make the clothes look bad. The bigger girls, when properly designed for, make the clothes look good! :D
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
just kind of pointing out that perhaps we need to give more attention to something that affects MORE children.
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Yeah I agree...wasn't really disagreeing just chatting...heh.

It scares me that kids today are getting bigger and bigger. It's setting them up for a life of health problems.

We can put a man on the moon but we can't make fried chocolate fat/calorie free with the nutrients of spinach?

Come on! :LOL: 
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
But they make the clothes look bad. The bigger girls, when properly designed for, make the clothes look good!
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I bet they THINK they look good in them tho. And it doesn't really matter, they still get to wear them.

Heh.