Windows Vista losing adherents?

      

Cool, though perhaps WindowBlinds will also go back to V5 where there was no problem   

Very true.
I can't imagine a medium to large scale network incorporating Vista in any fashion especially in a mixed environment. It would be a nightmare. It's so far off in left field from being compatible with a large amount of applications that I don't see it being accepted for years to come.

I am in I.T. in the healthcare industry. These applications are so far behind the times that we still have some NT servers in place. Many of the software companies simply refuse to keep their applications up to date.
Try explaining to a doctor why he/she cannot access patient records from home because their brand new home pc that came with Vista will simply not work with a new electronic medical records application.

Vista is OK at best on a home system only. I use Ultimate at home and I see zero benefit of doing so other than it looks great.

I work for a Global IT support company and we have to upgrade to Vista for three reasons. 1) because it's new and our clients expect us to be on the forefront of technology; 2) because there are a few early adapting clients or test situations where THEY are using Vista; 3) we are a MS partner and it's expected.

Starting a few months ago every new pc that was cycling through got Vista.  It's actually gone really well with few difficulties from what I hear.  I'm still happily using XP on all my work PCs and that's the way I like it.

This is notably true in the Enterprise or business environment due to a lack of support for remote management and adminpak support.

We just moved off of 2k on the desk top 2 years ago (still not total yet, but over 90%).  Businesses are very late in moving for support and configuration issues, as well as the legacy issue.

This makes rather interesting reading

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Hi, seldom.... couldn't find the words, either??

Could Vista be Microsoft's undoing? One can only wonder. I think they should have developed it more before releasing it.

Look at me, I'm a Microsoft basher fool who links to bs sites!

I have nothing better to do then bash a big company!

http://slashdot.org/articles/07/07/30/138253.shtml

Look at me! I'm a Microsoft fanboi who is terrified of people who dare trash my company!

IT doesn't move forward with people who merely accept the status quo.

Oh look at me, I'm a bloke who's happy with what he's got on his PC!!!

Now shoot, how in the heck did that happen? I keep hearing/reading about how Vista is another ME and a poor imitation of an OS, that it has oodles of room for improvement, too.

Huh, maybe I should be jumping up and down and bitching that I paid for a half baked OS just like everyone else? I'll ignore the Vista has been very reliable and probably the most stable OS I Have used...and now that I've upgraded elsewhere, that it supports all my hard and software.....

"Oi, Bill....Microsoft, you left out lots of stuff yer promised for Vista, and the extras for Ultimate are painfully slow in arriving. Oh, and I'm not at all happy there are gonna be no new features in SP1, like a coffee maker and bot to fetch my slippers."

Sure Vista could use a few tweaks and improvements, but with the majority complaining and saying they'll never adopt it, MS could very well become disinterested in finding fixes for it and simply move on the the next OS. I mean, how many of you would throw good money after bad, when hardly anyone is purchasing your product?

If Vista sinks, it won't entirely be MS' fault! Sure, MS made errors, but the negative opinions of self-proclaimed experts will sink it faster than a pirate ship's broadside with all its cannons blazing.

Vista won't "sink". It just won't be adopted as quickly as MS would have hoped. Which is, entirely their own fault and they are paying the price. But because every new PC is shipping with Vista and Vista will be worth using and buying (but not at the current ridiculous retail pricing) by next summer (with SP1 in wide release by then), it'll pick up adherents eventually.

Microsoft is the tortoise in this race...but one made of impenetrable armor of doom.

Oh by the way I never meant to imply that I don't like Vista. I never used to until I spent some time with it. It's a OK OS it's just the fact I like other things ATM.

Anyhow....

I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna take crap from whiny Linux fanboys, crying because of their dying marketshare.

Here is the real truth, and not from some BS site:

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/newsanalysis/itmanagement/10376540.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

http://digg.com/linux_unix/August_2007_Report_Apache_fast_losing_market_share_to_Microsoft

Not only is Linux losing marketshare on the home OS field, they are losing marketshare on servers.

Not to mention Mac OSX.

If this was an actual website with people who knew a damn about IT, I'd give a damn. But instead, it's a bunch of whiney Linux fanboys.

I hope the "Linux Fanboys" remark wasn't aimed at me...

Nope, at Mr. Futurama there.

I just visited that site. What a pile of crap. Rule # 1 of journalism is that you are unbiased.

All that site does is bash Microsoft, something that screams biased. Something that screams 'angry linux fanboy'.

That's not good journalism at all. Anyone who goes there is simply looking for info that they can use to bash Microsoft.

I agree about being unbiased.

I don't really care about other people views. I use whatever works for me.

If a OS cannot do what I want it to do, it's out of my choice list.

As it is, I use 2 OS, KUbuntu and Vista.

Our upgrades have gone very well... and I am talking thousands of machines. By the end of next year it will be tens of thousands.

For the record, I'm not a "fanboi" of any O/S. I believe people should run what works best for them and not be browbeaten by others into accepting something just because someobody else thinks it is better.

I think there are some very good things about Vista, I just don't think we should blindly accept it like drones unable to think for itself. As for market share, I have to agree with you, zellio, a site called "Microsoft Watch" probably isn't the best source of information on Microsoft.

But I have experienced many end users who have been less than satisfied with Vista and who have asked about downgrading to XP. I will shortly be among them, as I'm having my laptop built with XP Pro (It will be Vista compatible so that I can upgrade when I feel it is worthwhile to do so, but in the short run, I will run Vista on a virtual machine). I believe responsible IT pros don't sell out to a single corporation but educate themselves on multiple options. As I have told others: it doesn't matter whether I like Vista or not; it's what the END USER wants!

For the record (although this isn't true of everyone who has made that comment), I have made it perfectly clear many times that my comparison is from a MARKETING, NOT from a DESIGN standpoint! Vista works very well on Vista-compatible hardware.

Personally, I'm getting more than a little tired of operating systems that feel they must be resource hogs. A machine can have full functionality without requiring a resource heavy O/S. Sure, Vista LOOKS slick (and is, for those who like their toys), but come on...how badly do accountants need Aero? Wouldn't it be better to use those resources for something else like....oh, I dunno...say....ACCOUNTING?!?

Bottom line: If you like Vista get it. Like Linux, XP, Mac (shudder!)....get them.

They said that about XP as well. I dont think it will be. The purchased base is going to drive the acceptance.

No worries, Gid, I have read your comments regarding Vista and I am aware of your viewpoint. In fact, I agree with you, Vista's marketing has been sadly lacking and many would be customers have not been wowed sufficiently to upgrade/purchase.

As you can see from my above post, I've still got that irrepressible tongue in cheek way of putting a view out there. I guess, though, my point is that, while MS failed in its marketing of Vista, other factors have contributed to Vista's slow uptake: for example, PC manufacturers who install it on less than adequate machines, thus helping prove the self-proclaimed experts right.... that it is unstable, etc.

Another factor here in Oz: suppliers who do not provide PC/retail stores with adequate stock of the available Vista flavours. Vista Home Basic and Premium are generally the ONLY pre-builds available off the shelf, same with the standalone OS, and customers go back to XP rather than wait several days, sometimes weeks for other Vista editions.

In some ways, maybe the market wasn't ready for a new Windows OS just yet, and when you combine MS' unpreparedness to release Vista as well, you have a recipe for OSes to fare better, for disenchanted consumers to look elsewhere.

And Yeah, I agree with your Accountants and Aero comment....businesses should have been offered an edition akin to Home Basic....all the business features minus the eye candy.

Windows Vista.... Sometimes it's "slowling" on my computer....

I read a report from some site yesterday - escapes my mind now - that said someone at MS said Vista is being called Windows ME 2 and is a failure. at this point I don't have enough time using Vista to make a judgement call although I like what I've seen so far from Vista Basic on a friend's machine.