US 9/11 attack was through missile and not flight

The claims made in this video have been discussed in great detail here, here, and here.

I think you will find the arguments against the "missile" theory to be at least as compelling as the arguments in favor of the "missile" theory.

Good god that's dumb.  I watched 9/11 Live. I saw the airplane hit the building live. AIRPLANE.

 

Conspiracy theory nuts just never give up.

I watched it all live too... I guess that the live TV feed was delayed and they edited the image of the plane over the missile!  And it was a conspiracy across all news agencies, and everyone on the ground watching, or anyone with a video camera of their own was in on the lie!

Right...

So, really, Zoomba, MasonM, and Draginol, in your opinion, the official version is true?

There doesn't seem to be any reasonable evidence to suggest otherwise. It may differ in the details - God and those involved only know if there was any prior warning - but the shrapnel and sheer scope of necessary conspirators suggests it was definitely planes.

There doesn't seem to be any reasonable evidence to suggest otherwise. - Cactoblasta

I find the 'official' story totally unbelievable. I read / watch anything I can get a hold of that will provide new information or insight. I enjoyed the 9/11 'documentaries' 'Loose Change' and 'In Plane Sight' but I like to read the debunking reports that get down to brass tacks - that's proving to be very interesting. I don't care for those who simply toss aside questions about 9/11, however. If one has a correction to make or perpsective to contribute, that's fine, but simply ignoring basic questions the public might have about such a nationally traumatic event is a disservice to taxpayers.

I'm dissatisfied with the lack of government evidence to support the official story, so, instead, I'm treated to a smorgasboard of mostly 'home detectives' nitpicking each other.

I watched it all live too... I guess that the live TV feed was delayed and they edited the image of the plane over the missile! - Zoomba

You saw a plane hit the pentagon - on live television, no less?

That's cool, G.W. said he saw the first plane hit the first tower on live television as well.

Haven't you seen all the shots of plane wreckage on the Pentagon lawns? And haven't you looked into the personal background of the guy who put together 'Loose Change'? Don't they seem at all suspicious to you? One article I've recently read that focuses on those two issues is a serious one on pointlesswasteoftime.com - http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html

You might also want to consider the sheer incredible mass of conspiracists as well. Who has the money to bribe thousands of people into permanent silence?

Haven't you seen all the shots of plane wreckage on the Pentagon lawns? - Cacto

Cacto, would you please check out 'Loose Change' and 'In Plane Sight', match it against any debunking page and then tell me what you think? That is the process I am presently in: comparing and contrasting, picking and choosing what I agree and disagree with.


And haven't you looked into the personal background of the guy who put together 'Loose Change'? - Cacto

I'm not interested in one of the co-creators of 'Loose Change'. I am highly interested in some of the facts presented by the film and I'm still poking and prodding at a few of them. There's a place called 'Screw Loose Change' which addresses some of the points made within the film, they'll point you in the direction of where you can watch it and they work at debunking it.



You might also want to consider the sheer incredible mass of conspiracists as well. Who has the money to bribe thousands of people into permanent silence? - Cacto

Many people on camera, journalists, etc. have given conflicting reports of exactly what they thought they saw. I'm guessing you will only provide audience to those people providing testimony that supports the official story? The rest are all crazy.

Right?

Hey guys like mrboo said in the article I have gone through several other article as well and most of them raised suspectable questions. In this video too they showed one thing which still raises the eyebrowes what happened to aero plane parts.

well its stories all around, i saw video of the incident on some site, let me re collect and try to post that one as well

There's a lot of information to comb through. I'm very much hoping most people don't just simply say, "Hey, I'll go with the official story," as it's not convincing.

Sure it was a missle; three of them in the form of passenger jets filled with jet fuel. They were very convincingly disguised. Damn the government!

That's cool, G.W. said he saw the first plane hit the first tower on live television as well.

No he didn't. Good god. Like holocaust deniers. 

Bush was told about the attack while reading a book in a school. He didn't see it.  Even Michael Moore accepts that given that Bush's reaction to being told AFTER it happened was part of F911.

The official story is quite convincing. I"m sorry but it's hard to have any respect for the intelligence of people who believe there's some sort of massive conspiracy. 

19 men hijacked 4 aircraft. There were cell phone calls from the planes to relatives telling them what happened. Millions of Americans saw the second plane hit the WTC (I saw it myself). It was filmed from multiple directions. The passengers on the doomed planes described the terrorists. Bin Laden talked about how they pulled it off on tape. The terrorists taking flight training has been documented. Pieces of the plane were found.

I mean good god, how stupid can someone be to think that it was some monstrous government conspiracy?  It's easy to have a conspiracy theory if the ones pushing it simply invent their facts, twist people's words, and ignore inconvenient evidence.

I'm perfectly satisifed to let dumb people buy into believing it's a conspiracy because it's a very effective way for someone to identify themselves as an idiot that isn't worthy to be taken seriously in the future.  Every time any future topic comes up you can say "Oh wait, you're that dumb shit that thinks 9/11 was a government conspiracy. Nevermind, you run along now."

No he didn't. Good god. Like holocaust deniers. - Draginol

Christ, Draginol.


THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Jordan. Well, Jordan, you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my Chief of Staff, Andy Card -- actually, I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. - George W. Bush

From the Whitehouse news release:

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Except for the fact that several people were interviewed on 9/11... why? Because they saw it.

Nice little conspiracy theory though. Should keep the Aluminum Foil Hat Society's tongues wagging for years. lol

Except for the fact that several people were interviewed on 9/11... why? Because they saw it. - ParaTed2k

I'm only addressing Draginol's contention of my mentioning President Bush claimed he saw the first attack live on a tv three months later to a crowd of five-thousand plus.

The President did give that as his account of the moment, he did mean it and it made me wonder how befuddled he must be. I don't mention that to leap to the idea of a mass government conspiracy but thanks for the broad brush.

Let's see how far the gullibility goes:

So you are saying that you take Bush's statement to be that there was a live CNN camera on the WTC in a classroom before it was hit? That, you know, CNN or FOXNews or whatever just has a 24/7 camera sitting there and it was on.

Or possibly, just possibly, the plane had already hit and they were playing the incident. In other words, the President did not claim and did not see the first plane hit LIVE.  Do you understand the difference?

I got up that morning, came downstairs and saw the WTC and footage of something hitting the tower and thinking "Holy crap, terrible accident".  However, I did not see that live. I saw that after the fact.  Then 20 minutes or so later, a second plane hit -- THAT I saw live because the cameras were already on the WTC because of the fires.

The small brained conspiracy theorisits, however, have morphed Bush's quote to imply that he somehow (for his own evil satisfaction one must assume) had live cameras on the WTC BEFORE it was hit and then watched the FIRST plane hit in real time.  Which is not what happened and is ludicrious to even hear someone try to argue.

Draginol, I have not attempted to change the quote, I have not leaped to any of the conclusions you're peddling and my response to Zoomba was appropriate and accurate.

Zoomba did not see a plane hit the Pentagon and President Bush did not see the first plane hit the first tower when he said he did - despite what they both said. That's it.

"I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on. " - The President

He was in the classroom - not outside, there was no phantom television and it was not 'on'. The President has recounted this story on no less then two seperate occasions. He is obviously befuddled or repeating some incorrect story that is certainly unique in it's disparity from the public record vs. other Bush world gaffes.

Listen very carefully because this is the last time I'm going to try to explain it to you:

He did not imply that he saw the airplane hit the building in real time.  He was outside the classroom and CNN (or whatever) was ontelling about the airplane that hit the WTC playing footage that someone got of a plane hitting it.

It is the same thing that millions of Americans, myself included, saw. You are apparently taking his words to imply that he literally saw the plane - LIVE - hitting the WTC as if CNN had "WTC cam" or something on 24/7.

When the SECOND one hit, that's when everyone realized we were really under attack. The first one made people think it was a tragic accident. The second one is where we realized we were under attack and when Bush, now in the class room reading a book to children was informed of what happened and just sat there stunned.

Defence, if you want to believe that 9/11 was some Government conspiracy, that is fine. I will just know that I need not take your opinion seriously on anything in the future. Only kooks -- dumb kooks -- think that 9/11 was some government conspiracy.  You're free to think that's not the case and I'm free to think what I want as well.

You can spin it any way you want, Draginol, but I haven't provided as much wacky speculation as you have concerning the President's quotes or 9/11.

Take the credit when the credit is due, Draginol - it's all yours.

This just goes to prove that conspiracy theorists will believe whatever they want to believe. I second what Brad said.

Deference - man you are fucking obtuse.

Spit from the sidelines, Bunnahabhain. I'm sure you have plenty of class left to lose.

Hey Bunnahabhain both Defereance and Draginol conversation explained a lots of fact, and plss make sure do not hurt som body with swear words.

Bunnahabhain is simply dittohead trolling - he's not going to hurt any one regardless of how many curse words he uses.

Bunnahabhain should have read my posts #7, #9, #12, #15, and #17 before labeling me via his knee-jerk judgement. He's illustrative of those who quickly dismiss information on personal bias instead of filtering it as objectively as possible.