What are the available Kingdom champions?

By on September 9, 2013 7:11:22 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

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When designing a new Sovereign there are some hard choices to make. Which magic to start with impacts the Sovereign initially; e.g. "Do you want an early Tutelage bonus of +25% Xp or not?". And it also affects the starting city/cities somewhat (even though this diminish over time as you get more/better city-buffs), e.g. "Do you want the Enchanted Hammers (+1 material) or Inspiration bonus (+1 research) from start?".  Therefore I concluded that your first Champion also has an impact to your starting strategy (adding options to buffing Sovereign and cities). This is especially noticed in games where you have very few quests and thereby wait a long time for the second and third Champion (i.e. my current game).

This is obvious of course, but when I design my Sov, I want to know what Magic schools can be complemeted by the Champions later. Therefore I reloaded the only scenario a few times and discovered the first Kingdom champions were selected from 6 people (and I assume these are identical to the ones I was offered in a non-scenario-game using the same map).

Bannon Heighsley - Water, Command, Soul Spark (Amarian Blood, +1 different stats/shard)
Inslow – Earth 1, Rescue (Altar; Rush and +10% Xp)
Hannis – Earth 1, Guard strike (Ironeer; +1 Hp, +50% magic cost and 30 spellresist)
Othollo – Fire 1, Revenge (Altar; Rush and +10% Xp)
Ralle Stormborn – Air 1, Channel Lightning (Mancer/+1 move and +1 Acc/lvl)
Iriel – Life 2 (Amarian Blood, +1 different stats/shard)

1) Are the available Champions always the same, or do they differ from map to map? (assuming you choose the same Kingdom or Empire side)

2) What are the available second and third champions for Kingdom? (tried searching but found nothing) 

3) Are you always only allowed to choose class for your first champion, or is this scripted in the map/scenario?

 

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September 9, 2013 8:51:48 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

1) they should be the same for every map. It's random and allegiance based. Remember you play with lots of other Kingdoms in the scenario, and they might have selected champions already before you. 

2) the list is pretty huge to look through, you'll get a feel for it as you play (remember you can mod more champions if you want/can do it)

3) Yep. Scenario play by different rules though, so you can probably make it like that if you want. Random maps are the same always though.

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September 9, 2013 8:54:49 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

double post.

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September 9, 2013 8:57:41 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Re. # 2, this won't be 100% accurate but should be fairly close.

 

Name Level Allegiance Path Race Air Earth Fire Water Life Death
Craul Gravehands 1 Empire   Trogs   1        
Donya 1 Empire   Krax            
Kallus Hairto 1 Empire   Krax            
Lith Seratta 1 Empire   Urxen 1          
Miredesi 1 Empire   Quendar     1     1
Nochd Nightbringer 1 Empire   Wraiths           1
Ruah 1 Empire   Wraiths       1    
Skuzu the Smith 1 Empire   Trogs   1        
Badra 1 Kingdom   Tarthans     1      
Bannon Heighsley 1 Kingdom   Amarians       1    
Hannis 1 Kingdom   Ironeers   1        
Inslow 1 Kingdom   Altarians   1        
Iriel 1 Kingdom   Amarians         2  
Magar 1 Kingdom   Tarthans            
Othollo 1 Kingdom   Altarians     1      
Ralle Stormborn 1 Kingdom   Mancers 1          
Alexan the Beetle 3 Empire PathOfTheMage Wraiths     1 1    
Endis Steelhand 3 Empire PathOfTheGovernor Quendar            
Mergil 3 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Wraiths           1
Naressa 3 Empire PathOfTheMage Quendar 1         1
Poena 3 Empire PathOfTheWarrior Trogs     1      
Rahelle the Scorpion 3 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Urxen   1        
Turin Mafaru 3 Empire PathOfTheDefender Trogs     1      
Vasim 3 Empire PathOfTheDefender Krax            
Arcturus 3 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Tarthans     1 1    
Arissa 3 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Amarians 1       1  
Cuessa 3 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Ironeers   1        
Janusk 3 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Altarians            
Jesselde 3 Kingdom PathOfTheGovernor Amarians            
Joffery 3 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Altarians         1  
Klunni 3 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Mancers       1    
Tearny 3 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Ironeer     1      
Ulfnir 3 Kingdom PathOfTheAssassin Tarthans     1      
Kasst 5 Empire PathOfTheWarrior Twisted            
Tuatha 5 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Twisted            
Huhrus 5 Empire PathOfTheWarrior Twisted            
Nen Ratcatcher 5 Empire PathOfTheMage Twisted           2
Diruna 5 Empire PathOfTheDefender Quendar   1        
Karnius 5 Empire PathOfTheDefender Urxen   1        
Norak 5 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Krax           1
Phonis 5 Empire PathOfTheMage Quendar     2 1    
Ruka the Weaver 5 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Wraiths     1      
Sulowa 5 Empire PathOfTheWarrior Trogs   1        
Arando 5 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Mancers            
Bragni 5 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Tarthans 3          
Gaylyn the Grey 5 Kingdom PathOfTheGovernor Ironeer   1        
Irwan 5 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Amarians       3 1  
Naddi Arena 5 Kingdom PathOfTheAssassin Tarthans            
Vallisa 5 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Mancers            
Kiergann 5 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Ironeers         2  
Raza the Wild 5 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Twisted 1   1      
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September 9, 2013 9:00:21 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

And this is probably less accurate, but for what it's worth.....

 

 

Name Level Allegiance Path Race Air Earth Fire Water Life Death
As a'Zoth 7 Empire PathOfTheWarrior Trogs     2      
Bibiyana 7 Empire PathOfTheMage Quendar     2     2
Csilla 7 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Wraiths           2
Hertia 7 Empire PathOfTheGovernor Urxen       2    
Rostyra 7 Empire PathOfTheWarrior Krax            
Sullene 7 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Quendar 1         1
Tsomok the Blade 7 Empire PathOfTheDefender Trogs            
Edmynn 7 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Altarians   1        
Fairgenn 7 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Amarians 1     1    
Jordur the Giant 7 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Tarthans            
Liniad 7 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Ironeers         2  
Naegach 7 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Ironeers   1        
"Nines" 7 Kingdom PathOfTheAssassin Tarthans            
Ritressa 7 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Mancers       2    
Sewel the Shining 7 Kingdom PathOfTheGovernor Altarians 1       1  
Hyru the Caller 9 Empire PathOfTheMage Wraiths     1   1  
Magush the Adept 9 Empire PathOfTheMage Wraiths     2 2    
Norii the Quick 9 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Urxen 1          
Corinne the Archivist 9 Empire PathOfTheGovernor Undead           3
Lady Sculla 9 Empire PathOfTheDefender Krax     2      
Shimsher 9 Empire PathOfTheWarrior Trogs            
Tann the Dragonborn 9 Empire PathOfTheDefender Urxen     3      
Thannata 9 Empire PathOfTheAssassin Quendar           2
Adant Verris 9 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Amarians       2    
Arvyn 9 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Altarians       1    
Flurin 9 Kingdom PathOfTheAssassin Tarthans            
Gwenneth 9 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Amarians     2   2  
Listrid 9 Kingdom PathOfTheAssassin Tarthans            
Pellion the Bright 9 Kingdom PathOfTheWarrior Elemental           2
Mayriam 9 Kingdom PathOfTheMage Altarians       2    
Soliag the Undefeated 9 Kingdom PathOfTheDefender Ironeers            
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September 9, 2013 9:44:20 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Just install the Champion Bonanza for lots more heroes at all levels.

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September 9, 2013 9:52:32 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Thanks for the answers.

Great list Abob101.

 

Edit: thanks for mentioning the mod also. Will definately get that to my next game. http://forums.elementalgame.com/445026/page/1/ and http://fallenenchantress.nexusmods.com/mods/1082

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September 9, 2013 10:55:18 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting StevenAus,

Just install the Champion Bonanza for lots more heroes at all levels.

 

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September 12, 2013 9:36:51 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Are there rare Champions also?

I think I got a troll Champion (lvl 5 or 7ish) /Kingdom/ which had no magic, +5 Hp/level, 50% vulnerable to magic and something more I cannot remember. I was eating dinner at the same time, so I had little focus on it, and decided to reload quickly after to check the other Champions abilities. After reloading some and looking on the other Champions I couldn't get the troll to be offered again. Don't think I find him on the list of Kingdom champions above...

A friend I persuaded to try LH also thinks he have seen that Champion once - but thought it to be "rare" with smaller chance to occur.

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September 12, 2013 12:30:45 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Think you are talking about Tuatha I believe. Not super rare or anything, I've seem him more than a couple times, think I've only chosen him twice though.

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September 13, 2013 4:54:06 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums


Thanks Leon In WI.

Are there more rare champions that are not on Abob101's list?

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September 13, 2013 5:44:56 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

As far as I know, all champions at a particular fame milestone that are allowed to spawn have the same chance to swawn.  There is an NPC Spawn Likelihood (or something like that) and for all heroes who can appear at fame milestones the likelihood is always maximum (100).

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September 13, 2013 5:53:27 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting NeoNick7,
Are there more rare champions that are not on Abob101's list?

Pretty sure i've got them all.   Tuatha was already in the list above (level 5) but I had him down as Empire rather than Kingdom (now fixed).

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that they all have an equal chance of appearing.  I.e. you have an equal chance of any of the level 1 Kingdom champions appearing (if you are Kingdom).  For your second champ it should be one of the level 3 guys.  Then 5 etc.

 

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September 13, 2013 6:48:05 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums


Ok, I missed him as I only looked at the Kingdom champs.

And it must have been randomness that made him not appear for countless reloads. I should have counted as the percentage would have been very small.

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March 8, 2014 5:36:48 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Not to revive old threads, but is there a list similar to what abob101 posted that has the skills of the various champions?

(This is the most complete list of champs that I could find).

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March 8, 2014 6:04:33 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

N/A

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March 8, 2014 6:28:23 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Whoa! Thanks. Never thought to look there.

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