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[Bug][LH .51] Pack Tactics Swarm Bonus Bug?

March 23, 2013 4:55:14 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

<AbilityBonus InternalName="PackTacticsAbility">
        <AbilityBonusOption InternalName="PackTactics">
            <DisplayName>Pack Tactics</DisplayName>
            <Description>This unit recieves double the normal Swarm bonus</Description>
            <Icon>Ability_PackTactics_Icon.png</Icon>
            <GameModifier>
                <ModType>Unit</ModType>
                <Attribute>AdjustUnitStat</Attribute>
                <StrVal>UnitStat_SwarmBonusCounter</StrVal>
                <Value>2</Value>
                <Provides>This unit recieves double the normal Swarm bonus</Provides>
            </GameModifier>
            <CombatRating>10</CombatRating>
            <HideWhenUpgraded>0</HideWhenUpgraded>
            <IsCombatAbility>1</IsCombatAbility>
            <Type>Aggressive</Type>
            <AIData AIPersonality="AI_General">
                <AIPriority>5</AIPriority>
            </AIData>
        </AbilityBonusOption>
    </AbilityBonus>

It looks to me like this skill is tripling the swarm bonus instead of doubling it.  I believe the value should be 1 to double the value (from 1 to 2.)

This is one reason why wolves are so treacherous.

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Reply #1 March 25, 2013 3:34:03 PM
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bump^

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Reply #2 March 25, 2013 4:06:17 PM
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Is the Urxen Blood bonus of doubling the Swarm bonus similarly bugged?

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Reply #3 March 25, 2013 4:13:30 PM
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Yeah I think it might be...let me look at the code real quick.

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Reply #4 March 25, 2013 4:19:35 PM
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           <GameModifier>
                <ModType>Unit</ModType>
                <Attribute>AdjustUnitStat</Attribute>
                <StrVal>UnitStat_SwarmBonusCounter</StrVal>
                <Value>2</Value>
                <Provides>This unit recieves double the normal Swarm bonus</Provides>
            </GameModifier>

Yup.  Urxen Blood is bugged as well.

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Reply #5 March 25, 2013 4:26:19 PM
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It would be kinda cool if Magnar units received a -50% swarm bonus.  Or at least the slaves.

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Reply #6 March 26, 2013 8:17:48 AM
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bumping again^

I'm pretty sure this is not working as intended.

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Reply #7 March 26, 2013 7:04:47 PM
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bump^

Still bugged in .51

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Reply #8 March 29, 2013 10:00:31 AM
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bump^

If this is WAD then please change the description to +200% bonus instead of double.

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Reply #9 March 29, 2013 10:03:19 AM
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Yes, I would like to hear from Stardock on this.

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Reply #10 April 4, 2013 11:26:30 AM
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bump^

Guys is this a bug or do you need to change the provides tag?

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Reply #11 April 4, 2013 11:38:48 AM
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did you mod it to 1 and notice that it was doubling? How is this calculation taking place. Is it a replacement value, or is it an additive value. Or is it a multiplicative value. Because if it is mutliplicative wouldn't it suggest that if you have 2 characters you get a times 2 bonus. If there are 3 you would get a times 4 (the usual bonus)... If there are 4 then you would get a times 8 (the usual bonus)... but without actually looking at the code I'm not sure. Or some what along those ideas.

It could be that if you have 2 characters you get times 4 the bonus, while with 3 you get times 8 the bonus. I would like to know a little on how this calculated myself.

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Reply #12 April 4, 2013 12:29:48 PM
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It's an AdjustUnitStat with a Value (not a Multiplier) which suggests that the Value (2) is being added to the Default (1).

If they wanted to replace the default, they would use SetUnitStat, if that is even a valid Attribute any more.

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Reply #13 April 4, 2013 12:57:34 PM
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I was just curious if they calculated things differently for this unit stat... plus it was a way of bumping the thread for ya

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Reply #14 April 4, 2013 1:08:13 PM
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No problem. 

Here's the XML for the SwarmBonusCounter UnitStat.  From the description, it's pretty clear that the way the Pack Swarm bonus is implemented it's bugged.

<UnitStatType InternalName="UnitStat_SwarmBonusCounter">
        <DisplayName>Swarm Counter</DisplayName>
        <DisplayNameShort>SWARM</DisplayNameShort>
        <Description>How many times per ally the Swarm Bonus is applied to this unit in tactical (when applicable).</Description>
        <!--<Icon>Stat_CritDamageMultiplier_Icon.png</Icon>-->
        <Hidden>1</Hidden>
        <DefaultValue>1</DefaultValue>
        <UnitStatGrouping>CombatStat</UnitStatGrouping>
    </UnitStatType>

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Reply #15 April 4, 2013 1:10:24 PM
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You are right, its tripling the swarm bonus instead of doubling.  It will be fixed in patch 0.75.

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Reply #16 April 4, 2013 1:19:34 PM
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Quoting Derek Paxton,
reply 15

You are right, its tripling the swarm bonus instead of doubling.  It will be fixed in patch 0.75.

Thanks Derek.  Don't forget Urxen Blood is similarly bugged.

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Reply #17 April 4, 2013 1:58:40 PM
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Haha, I gave the Urxen a leader and put them in a game as an enemy, and they were kicking my ass with their swarming.  

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Reply #18 April 4, 2013 1:59:00 PM
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yep, got both

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Reply #19 April 4, 2013 2:20:09 PM
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Quoting Derek Paxton,
reply 15

You are right, its tripling the swarm bonus instead of doubling.  It will be fixed in patch 0.75.

Success! Thank you.

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