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m4-rk

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Reply #1 April 20, 2012 1:03:55 PM
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I agree? 

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Reply #2 April 20, 2012 2:05:38 PM
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well if you dont know what im talking about come back here once you find out in game

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Reply #3 April 20, 2012 7:43:15 PM
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Quoting ddd888,
reply 2
well if you dont know what im talking about come back here once you find out in game

I was trying to ignore the post hoping it went away.

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Reply #4 April 20, 2012 7:53:45 PM
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This post is bad and you should feel bad.

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Reply #5 April 21, 2012 2:12:02 AM
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whats your problem seriously?

if you dont understand something why would you want to write about it?

 

keep playing, at some point youlll find out what im talking about and come back here to discuss it, eventually

 

 

i just dont get you ppl

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Reply #6 June 13, 2012 9:11:50 PM
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Yeah, M4-RK. What's up with that? I got it from Lady Irane once she surrendered. I hope it's not just loot, although that's what it looks like.

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Reply #7 June 14, 2012 6:33:06 AM
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Quoting visagedarkskin,
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Yeah, M4-RK. What's up with that? I got it from Lady Irane once she surrendered. I hope it's not just loot, although that's what it looks like.

should probably post a proper thread, with a savegame where we can see it (if its an item) or a screenshot, would help tremendously!  (on my curiosity)

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Reply #8 June 14, 2012 9:21:13 AM
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Can you tell those of us who have not encountered this what this is please ...... pretty please with sugar on top

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Reply #9 June 15, 2012 1:11:26 PM
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I had already erased the game where I got it. As far as I can tell it's something you can sell for 300 (400?) and that's it. You couldn't equip it.

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Reply #10 June 15, 2012 1:49:43 PM
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I had already erased the game where I got it. As far as I can tell it's something you can sell for 300 (400?) and that's it. You couldn't equip it.

OK so it is an item you get in your inventory?
What picture does it have?

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Reply #11 June 15, 2012 2:43:50 PM
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Yes it's an item which showed up in the inventory. it's sort of a robotic face

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Reply #12 June 15, 2012 3:22:35 PM
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Its a joke item you can sell for the money. I assume its an inside joke to one of the devs.

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Reply #13 June 15, 2012 4:44:30 PM
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Quoting Glowing_Ember,
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Its a joke item you can sell for the money. I assume its an inside joke to one of the devs.

 

...based on the complaints about the poor return on selling to merchants.  Your one-stop rich item.

 

Actually, I'd have no problem with the amount we get now for selling items, if only it was a higher cost percentage of the actual base price.  In other words, lower the actual value, don't raise the percentage on the return for selling to merchants.

 

Or keep it as it is, and provide buildings that improve that percentage.  Which, I suspect, is one thing we might see in beta 4.

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Reply #14 June 15, 2012 7:57:44 PM
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Or keep it as it is, and provide buildings that improve that percentage.  Which, I suspect, is one thing we might see in beta 4.

I hope not, I think that is a terrible idea

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Reply #15 June 15, 2012 8:07:25 PM
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It's a we-vibe?

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Reply #16 June 15, 2012 11:35:50 PM
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See... I see that and I read "Mark".

 

I suspect an inside Devs joke involving a person named Mark.

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Reply #17 June 16, 2012 9:45:26 PM
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Quoting Kongdej,
reply 15

Quoting Glazunov1, reply 14Or keep it as it is, and provide buildings that improve that percentage.  Which, I suspect, is one thing we might see in beta 4.

I hope not, I think that is a terrible idea

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~ Kongdej

 

Who knows?  Brad probably does, but I doubt he'll accept in-game gold to tell us.

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Reply #18 June 16, 2012 10:40:06 PM
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Well, I got one in a goodie cache, I was going to mention it in a bug report, it says it's worth 3,000, but when you actually sell it, you only get 300, was wondering about the disparity in values.  Doesn't seem to do anything other than give you something to sell.  I do have the save game.

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Reply #19 June 16, 2012 11:18:33 PM
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Well, I got one in a goodie cache, I was going to mention it in a bug report, it says it's worth 3,000, but when you actually sell it, you only get 300, was wondering about the disparity in values.  Doesn't seem to do anything other than give you something to sell.  I do have the save game.

 

Why is that a bug?  Haven't you checked the resale value of anything else you've found in the game?  It's a straight 10%.  As we remarked above in this thread, people have been grousing about that for some time.  This isn't a change.  It's simply the way the beta is.  Will it change in the future?  Possibly.  We'll just have to wait and see.

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Reply #20 June 17, 2012 8:40:54 AM
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Well, for something that has no use (you can't use/equip/beat someone to death with it) and all you can do is sell it, the value &  price should match.

 

pek

 

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Reply #21 June 17, 2012 10:59:54 AM
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Well, for something that has no use (you can't use/equip/beat someone to death with it) and all you can do is sell it, the value &  price should match.

No, that would create more confusion, what it should state is "Selling Value" when looking through items. That is, every item.

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Reply #22 June 17, 2012 12:59:22 PM
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Quoting pkaski,
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Well, for something that has no use (you can't use/equip/beat someone to death with it) and all you can do is sell it, the value &  price should match.

 

But consider: everything else in the game has a value, reflecting how much it is worth, and a price, reflecting how much merchants will pay for it.  To price some objects with value as equal to price, and many others as not, would cause issues of consistency.  How do you propose this could be solved?

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Reply #23 June 17, 2012 2:59:06 PM
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The other items, so far, have another use besides selling it (herbs, weapons, spells, books) and value, this is the only item that has no intrinsic use EXCEPT TO SELL.  M4-rk was just snuck in (nobody has reported it before this week, anyway).  Unless the devs are dangling it in front of us to play with our emotions, what other use does it have except to sell at full value?  And if it only for sale, how can it have a separate price and value if it doesn't have any other use?

 

pek

 

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Reply #24 June 17, 2012 3:48:43 PM
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Quoting pkaski,
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The other items, so far, have another use besides selling it (herbs, weapons, spells, books) and value, this is the only item that has no intrinsic use EXCEPT TO SELL.
M4-rk was just snuck in (nobody has reported it before this week, anyway).
Unless the devs are dangling it in front of us to play with our emotions, what other use does it have except to sell at full value?
And if it only for sale, how can it have a separate price and value if it doesn't have any other use?

For simplicity. If every value, compared to selling value uses the same number, there is no confusion as to what item sells for what price.
If I saw the item you mention and see "Value 300" I will immediately think it will sell for 30 gold, because right now the selling value is 10% of the total value.
But as I said, it would be nice to view items in my own inventory's value as "Sell Value" so you see the exact amount of money you gain from giving the item to the vendor
And when you look in the shop it should state "Price" and come up with the current chosen cost.

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Reply #25 June 17, 2012 3:52:31 PM
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"mark" was not just snuck in, i have seen it fairly consistently about every 3 or 4 games i play for several weeks now.

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