[0.77] Maxwar's list of annoyances ( and positive feedback)

By on January 28, 2012 7:29:59 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

EvilMaxWar

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After several hours of gameplay under my belt I can say that I really like the game so far! Goodjob! I have a good feeling this can become the game I had been expecting from Stardock back in 2010.

As I played I took notes on a paper of all the things that just somewhat got in the way. My first round of feedback will be about this: ANNOYANCES!

*Grabs paper*

 

1. Pre-explored stuff in the fog of war disappears when reloading your game : This is my worst annoyance so far, each time i quit the game and come back, all areas in FOW are blank (Terrain with no features) ... Some of it eventually comes back by itself for some reason... 

2. Mouse hold on scrollbar in hiergamenon ( and other menus ) : As soon as your cursor gets away from the scrollbar while doing a hold and drag, it just stops to work until you stop holding the button and start over. Really annoying. ( Should work like in my web browser )

3. Build queue priority editing.   If it is possible to do it, i could not find how. In any case i feel this should be an option that is easy to figure out. I propose the possibility to simply drag and drop the icons in the build queue in whatever order you like.

4.Party formation : Once again, if it is possible, idk how.  It really annoys me that in every battle my ultra initiative boosted warrior with like 6 movement gets first turn but cannot do anything because all the riffraff is always in the first row and blocking his way.

5.The equip menu: When you have several heroes in your army, it really annoys me that you cannot switch over to the next one via the menu. 

6.The equip menu ( part 2) : Well, i actually dont even use it... I always use the trade menu, as you can not only trade but also equip and shop in the same menu. The equip menu seems useless but for the additional information it gives about your character. I feel it would be better to somehow integrate all this info in the trade screen.

7. Flee from combat : I keep building scouts. I send them to explore but they always end up being attacked by some craps. Scouts have 3 mov but can barely fight. They should be able to GTFO due to their faster movement but they can't (unless i simply did not figure how to) . As it is now they are doomed as soon as they are engaged. 

8. Unit upgrades: Thank you for your loyal service lev 6 warriors! But just go suicide yourself now, your impossibility to use new armors or weapons just made you obsolete...

9: Floating info boxes in the map screen.: I like the idea of floating info boxes ( Namely the terrain informer and the faction power box). However when i click drag to move the map around, if i have the ill luck to hit one of those floating info boxes it stops moving the map and moves the box instead. Did not happen often but ever times it made me "Tsssssk! :

10. Cannot access my desktop with ctrl-esc:  *Fixed with show desktop bar, no longer an annoyance. *

11. I really like hotkeys but... I don't know what they are in this game. The overlay menus are not much help, the Hiergamemnon *Gawd i can never remember how to spell the word) Is not much help either.  The culmination of awesomeness regarding shortkeys imho is to have a menu in the option where you can see and configure them as you will. 

12. Event Icons at the right: The master icon does not disappear by itself once you have clicked off all the secondary event icons it contains. Its not a big deal but still somehow annoys me.

13. Spacebar in map view : Ok not really sure about this one. Somehow i did not get how it worked so far. Seems to usually not do anything, even though i have idling units with no orders. However sometimes it will selects a unit with no orders, usually a fresh built one.  Maybe there's something i did not understand yet...

 

Hey that will be all for now! Will keep on writing on my paper but now it is full so ill start a new one.

 

 

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January 28, 2012 7:55:54 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

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7. Flee from combat : I keep building scouts. I send them to explore but they always end up being attacked by some craps. Scouts have 3 mov but can barely fight. They should be able to GTFO due to their faster movement but they can't (unless i simply did not figure how to) . As it is now they are doomed as soon as they are engaged. 

Would like to see this as well.

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8. Unit upgrades: Thank you for your loyal service lev 6 warriors! But just go suicide yourself now, your impossibility to use new armors or weapons just made you obsolete...

You can upgrade them it just costs so much it doesn't make sense.  Would like to see this cost lowered.

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January 28, 2012 10:38:37 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

How do you do it? For the life of me i cannot find out how to upgrade.  I can build destiny guards, horsemen, archers etc. I still have a lowly militia here but I cannot see where i have the option to upgrade it.  ( I have about 1200 gildars in bank )

 

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January 29, 2012 2:06:33 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting EvilMaxWar,
How do you do it? For the life of me i cannot find out how to upgrade.  I can build destiny guards, horsemen, archers etc. I still have a lowly militia here but I cannot see where i have the option to upgrade it.  ( I have about 1200 gildars in bank )

 

click the little arrows up next to the powers (additional options), or sometimes its on the bar itself depending on how many options you have there.

Heres a screenie showing what i mean.

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January 29, 2012 2:25:46 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

4.Party formation : Once again, if it is possible, idk how.  It really annoys me that in every battle my ultra initiative boosted warrior with like 6 movement gets first turn but cannot do anything because all the riffraff is always in the first row and blocking his way.

What No... I love how every battle my archers and mage start in the front blocking my warriors. It never gets annoying at all.

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January 29, 2012 11:02:34 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

@dragoaskani

Thanks for the precision, however i have never seen this option using the little arrow. But i am beginning to see a pattern.

I seem to recall my very first warrior group did not have armor, then they died in battle. All warriors i built after had armor. Probably because i had a new tech that made it available and the warriors got upgraded. I could probably have then upgraded my old unarmored warriors in the fashion you describe.

However i can't give armor and new weapons to my old militia, which is sad because they ended up being level 4.

 

I think what would be nice would be a "retrain" option, where you basically pay for a new unit minus the value of the equipment of the old and the unit keeps its level.

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January 29, 2012 11:32:48 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting EvilMaxWar,
@dragoaskani

I think what would be nice would be a "retrain" option, where you basically pay for a new unit minus the value of the equipment of the old and the unit keeps its level.

 

Yes, we argued long and hard for an upgrade option, just as we did in GalCiv and we've basically ended up with the same situation we had in GalCiv2, where the only way to do it is instantly, by paying in cash outright. It's ridiculous that I can train some unarmoured spearmen in 5 turns, discover leather working, and have a choice between building a new unit with leather armour for a pittance in 5 turns, or paying 2000 gold to upgrade.

To be honest, I just don't think stardock understand people's desire to keep their armies at the top of their game. They expect us to play like computer players, where warfare is an attritional meat grinder. But I think most human players are not like this, and generally don't fight battles they don't expect to win. Ie, there is no attrition.

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January 29, 2012 11:51:04 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

The retraining could be done instead by sending your unit back to the production queue (boot camp) where they are converted into a new unit but keep their experience. I think this would be pretty cool.

 

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January 29, 2012 12:13:08 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

OP, good points except

10. Cannot access my desktop with ctrl-esc:  The game sorts of keep running in the background and even though i have access to windows without the game crashing, i cannot use my desktop.

The game is running in "full/borderless window mode", it is far superior to regular full screen which gets bogged down, crashes, or just takes dozens of seconds to switch back and forth. The game is running in window mode, in a window sized to perfectly fit your desktop.

After pressing ctrl-esc or the windows key you simply need to press the "show desktop" button to  see your desktop. In win7 it is the vertical bar to the right of the system clock (rightmost thing on the taskbar)

you can also freely go to other programs.

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January 29, 2012 1:41:33 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

 

Quoting taltamir,
OP, good points except



10. Cannot access my desktop with ctrl-esc:  The game sorts of keep running in the background and even though i have access to windows without the game crashing, i cannot use my desktop.

The game is running in "full/borderless window mode", it is far superior to regular full screen which gets bogged down, crashes, or just takes dozens of seconds to switch back and forth. The game is running in window mode, in a window sized to perfectly fit your desktop.

After pressing ctrl-esc or the windows key you simply need to press the "show desktop" button to  see your desktop. In win7 it is the vertical bar to the right of the system clock (rightmost thing on the taskbar)

you can also freely go to other programs.

 

Thanks for pointing that out! I usually use Windowskey-M to minimize everything and i was frustrated it would not minimize FE. But you provided a solution and an explanation.

 

I also edited the list.

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