Is “The Age of the PC" coming to an end?

By on August 13, 2011 8:27:42 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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This one really caught my eye. It seems that one of the original designers of the PC thinks the answer is “Yes.”

The engineer who thinks so is none less that IBM’s Middle East and Africa’s CTO, Mark Dean. He was one of the magic twelve who designed IBM’s PC

thirty years ago.

“PCs are being replaced at the center of computing not by another type of device — though there’s plenty of excitement about smartphones and tablets — but by new ideas about the role that computing can play in progress. These days, it’s becoming clear that innovation flourishes best not on devices but in the social spaces between them, where people and ideas meet and interact. It is there that computing can have the most powerful impact on economy, society and people’s lives.” -  Mark Dean

He himself states he rarely sits plunked down at his desk in front of a box and here’s where he really sheds some light on his feeling:

“I, personally, have moved beyond the PC as well. My primary computer now is a tablet. When I helped design the PC, I didn’t think I’d live long enough to witness its decline. But, while PCs will continue to be much-used devices, they’re no longer at the leading edge of computing. They’re going the way of the vacuum tube, typewriter, vinyl records, CRT and incandescent light bulbs.” – Ibid

I echo this. I never thought I’d use one a Pad. I chided Island Dog (who I hope is laughing heartily at my hubris). I now use it all the time, as it’s my favorite reader. In the past, I never thought I’d use a laptop nor a smart phone. Guess what.

The fact is, that our gadget horizon has expanded radically, and portability is a super must, along with vertical and horizontal integration for business/productivity as well as social networking, and entertainment. Being a Luddite won’t gain you a thing. There are many advantages (and some disadvantages) to these new platforms.

Our tech is revolutionizing our culture. No one can deny this after watching the Middle East upheavals and the London riots.

I’d like to see more ‘real’ contact between people as opposed to ‘virtual’ but face it, distances are still real.

That’s why this Community is so important and why WinCustomize is our hub.

My personal feeling is that skinning needs to be more relevant to this new world as well. I feel Stardock’s apps have to infiltrate the business and social worlds even more strongly despite Windows 7 and because of the coming Windows 8.

Windows XP is still very prevalent in the business world, but that will start declining in the near future. Wallpapers need to include mobile/pad sizes. There needs to be a miniWB for smart phones and Windows pads, as well as skinned app-tiles to defeat the horrendous “Metro” monocolored rectangles.

Since Windows 8 will have a choice (we believe) of task bar or Metro, then both these should be addressed…. and the female market should  be addressed.

What are your thoughts?

 

Source:  http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/engineer-of-original-ibm-pc-declares-end-of-pc-era/8924?tag=nl.e101

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August 15, 2011 2:27:34 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't understand why people use the iPad when the iPad is crippled on the net because it will not play flash.

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August 15, 2011 2:44:39 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

"We don't need no steeenkin' Flash".

The convenience waaaaaay exceeds the lack of Flash. 

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August 15, 2011 2:58:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Most of the sites I visit use flash. iPad can't even play Youtube videos.

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August 15, 2011 3:30:22 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I actually think it can, since most videos on Youtube also come in mp4 format. But I sort of understand what you mean, I make web shows for a living, all in flv format, and spend a lot of time on Kongregate. Kongregate also being the place where you can find, for free, games older than Angry Birds that are a lot better.

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August 16, 2011 2:09:20 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Youtube videos show fine. I just placed my tablet on the desk to show them while I write this on my laptop. A good keyboard is still a good keyboard.

Now if Stardock forums moved to flash, then I'd have to reconsider

Personally I think flash will be outdated faster than tablets.

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August 16, 2011 2:56:43 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Doubt it. Facebook games use flash. Facebook will find a way to keep flash going.

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August 16, 2011 3:00:16 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I think the PC will become something used more by professionals who need variable components, custom configurations and more power/storage.

A tablet will not replace a large display need or the need for increased computing power.

Imagine developing your software  "in the cloud" where you trust your provider to safeguard your patents and copyrights and not to leak your ideas  out to others. Not gonna happen.

You get your email or Facebook hacked its a pain--you lose years of work and all the future profits of years of work its a whole other problem.

Of course, software companies would love for you to simply rent their software with an annual or per-use fee and they'd love to move you to the cloud.

 

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August 16, 2011 6:52:01 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
I don't understand why people use the iPad when the iPad is crippled on the net because it will not play flash.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/11/05/02/hulu.blocked.facebook.most.popular.destination/

http://www.gamezebo.com/news/2011/06/01/iswifter-30-brings-facebook-gaming-ipad

Skyfire and Frash are other apps which make games compatible with the iPad. Basically, Apple didn't want Flash on the iPad because it used the battery much faster than a good mobile platform designed for more modest entertainment purposes as well as productivity purposes. Something had to be sacrificed. It was Flash.

So, iSwifter did the server side of the games and 'streams' them to the iPad. Not perfect, but allows modest speeds.

Like most things, it's a trade off. If you need a mobile platform principally for games, go a different direction... use a laptop. Not being a game player (apart from "Bejeweled" when bored in an office waiting for an appointment with nothing more productive to do).

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August 16, 2011 7:36:15 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Vallu751,
Interesting read. Here I am, writing a forum reply on my iPad while my high-end PC I built two years ago (still quite powerful) is gathering dust. I do use the computer for heavier gaming needs, but I use the pad a whole lot more. Having small kids and sitting quietly at a desk don't mix too well..

having kids ( multiple and writing on a tablet doesn´t seem that easy to me aswell ) you need both hands to use the tablet one for holding it and the other for typing ether way you have to pay your whole attention to the puter its just that your moble and can sit ( maybee outside ).
To me the whole iphone ipad Ipod tablet thing is just a big fancy show where you can demonstrate your fancy stuff off.
The thing is and thats kinda sad that over 65% of the users dont even use half of the applications that come with these things.

Its like hey look at me I have an Ipad may i join the club ? 
What do you use it for ? 
I dont know but it looks damn cool holding it this way

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August 16, 2011 8:24:04 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

My PC area was nicknamed 'The Bat Cave' by my daughter-in-law [because it's dark and under the house] and that's where all my PC stuff takes place.  I have no need for portable devices, largely because I'm concentrating too much on walking/remaining upright on my feet, etc.  I'm not away from home that much these days anyhow [mobility isn't the greatest anymore], so they'd be just expensive toys that got very little use.

No, these devices are not going to replace my PC any time soon.  I do have a netbook [only because I got it cheap (199 AUD)] but even that never goes out anywhere with me [for the above reason... don't wanna trip over my own feet due to a technological distraction. ]   Nah, it's used more as a network 'connector' while in upstairs or in bed or something.... given it can access the main PC's and share files with my Netgear Stora, which basically is a network enabled external drive bay.

And I don't go for all this smartphone stuff, either.  I have a $29.95 Nokia on a 29 buck plan that lasts me a year.  It sends and receives calls and texts... and ALL I need.  I could also use it as a MP3 player and radio, but I don't even bother with that.  Same thing goes - technological distractions - and it'd be my luck to get run over by a bus because I didn't hear it coming over the sound of some wailing blues guitar.

I'm comfortable with the technology I have [read, the learning curve is too steep with some of this new fangled stuff] and it serves all my needs [read that my needs aren't that great these days and I don't want to develop any more].

Yeah, I know, I'm a dinosaur, and like the dinosaur I will become extinct if I do not evolve... yeah, yeah, yeah.

So what!  Everything dies.... and I'm sure my PC [or an updated version thereof] will still be kicking long after I'm gone.... and my great grandkids will be amazed and attribute its longevity to my keeping Google's crap off it.  Yes if there's a legacy that I leave behind, it'll be my dislike and distrust of Google and its stuff.

Anyhow, I'm gonna go get a tablet now..... I have a headache.

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August 16, 2011 8:36:18 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Yes Roloccolor, being with kids take up all one's attention and the pads require both hands. When I'm with the kids (multiple here too), I don't use any form of electonic entertainment. TV, tablet, computer, etc. The kids won't be young forever and I would rather spend the time with them, although it's not always instantly gratifying..

That said, this is exactly the reason the tablet is better than the computer for me. I don't dedicate hours of my days for the net or games, so I get to read emails, check up on forums, facebook, TED talks, web comics and such during the time the kids are doing something I'm not. For example when I'm waiting for our 2 year old to fall asleep in the next room and carrying him back to bed a couple of times before that happens. Or sitting next to my wife after kids have gone to sleep and she wants to watch something from the TV (I don't like TV much). Or next to her in bed while she reads a book before falling asleep.

This may come from the time we met when she was reading a lot for her studies. I bought a Nintendo DS back then to have something to do while she studied.. Anyhow, I find the iPad ideal for doing something myself when the others are occupied. It's instantly on and situated exactly where I want.

[edit] Grr.. had to boot up my laptop to add the 'enters' in the message. For some reason line ends from iPad don't show on the foum. Touche!

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August 16, 2011 9:13:25 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I was watching a flash move from the BBC while in the US, on my iPad, through my home desktop while riding in a car in a different city today.  It has its uses.

The iPad did get me out of my basement cave up into the inhabited parts of my house more but doesn't begin to replace my desktop.  It's just convenient for checking your bank, looking up info and watching Neflix/reading books.  Nice in a car for the GPS map and a handy emergency phone/calculator/notepad/calender when needed.

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August 16, 2011 9:41:22 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yes, Forums has issues with the iPad (or vice versa). And yes to Sinperium...there are ways around the flash issue.

starkers, I understand your point of view. Also, going from portrait to landscape mode might be unpleasant for you... sorry about that, mate. Are you sure she added the 'cave'... that she wasn't just calling you an old bat?   j/k.

 

 

 

 

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August 16, 2011 10:45:48 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Skyfire and Flash are other apps which make games compatible with the iPad. Basically, Apple didn't want Flash on the iPad because it used the battery much faster than a good mobile platform designed for more modest entertainment purposes as well as productivity purposes. Something had to be sacrificed. It was Flash.

Actually I heard the reason why flash isn't used on the iPad was because Jobs doesn't like flash. Be that as it may why would anyone drink apple's koolaid with locked in DRM? And not to mention the price of admission is very high compared to other tablets. High in price just like other Apple products.

Anyone ever look inside an iPad?

iPad

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August 16, 2011 4:34:57 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Quoting Vallu751,
Interesting read. Here I am, writing a forum reply on my iPad while my high-end PC I built two years ago (still quite powerful) is gathering dust.

I use mine as a file server.  Literally.  Since it will always be on, and the Blueray can read it to play tv episodes.

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August 16, 2011 4:40:16 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

The wording in the article is wrong. He means "The age of the desktop PC". In that case, it's true.

But if we mean PCs as in Personal Computer then he's completely wrong.

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August 16, 2011 5:11:32 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yes. Desktop.

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August 16, 2011 7:36:02 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I just ordered a PC but I am also learning how to make iOS stuff.

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August 16, 2011 10:01:49 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Also, going from portrait to landscape mode might be unpleasant for you..

Yeah, when you have vertebrae with no discs between them, it hurts to turn your head from landscape to portrait view.

I have tried using a bandage for additional support but then I have difficulty breathing and swallowing, etc.

Nah, I think I'm stuck with my Desktop PC in landscape, I'm afraid.

It did occur to me, however, to tip my monitors on end to practice using portrait view, but that didn't work too well cos too much sh!t was off-screen that way.

Quoting DrJBHL,
Are you sure she added the 'cave'... that she wasn't just calling you an old bat?

Yep, she definitely added 'cave'.  However, I did inquire as to the 'old bat' thing, and I just got a wry smirk... so you may be on to something there.

She did ask where the bat pole was, though, and I replied: "Don't be silly, how am I gonna get my cups of coffee down here if I'm hanging on for grim death while sliding precariously down a 'bat pole'?"

Nope, can't afford to land with a thud, not with my aching and brittle bones.  Owwww.

Quoting Campaigner,
Since it will always be on, and the Blueray can read it to play tv episodes.

Yeah, same with mine and the Netgear Stora.. can access video, music, photos and documents anywhere in the house there's a network connected device.  That's the great thing about the netbooks [Shaunna and I each have one]... can be sitting on the bog [loo] watching TV, video, etc. 

The other great thing about the Stora is that I only have to have that on,... as is connects via the router rather than the PC.... and being a less complicated device [not as much junk in it] it represents a power saving as opposed to leaving my PC on down here to do the same thing.  Currently I have 2 x 1tb HDDs in it, but I can interchange between drives easily and will grab a couple of 2tb's later for greater storage capacity.

 

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August 18, 2011 4:25:19 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Frogboy,
I just ordered a PC but I am also learning how to make iOS stuff.

Why not make a game or two while you're at it? While the AppStore is filled with tons of games, there are precious few good strategy games available. Right now I'm rooting for the publishing of King of Dragon Pass by A#. I really hope they do well and we get to see some games with more content beneath the surface.

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August 18, 2011 7:19:11 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

and HP is getting out of the PC business, hmmm.

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August 18, 2011 7:32:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Spinning it off in favor of larger enterprise business... less fluctuation.

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August 18, 2011 7:44:00 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gmc2,
and HP is getting out of the PC business, hmmm.

Probably because they're no good at it....

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August 18, 2011 8:27:17 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Soylents, you! 

I love my HP lappy! Many happy hours on it.... many shops as well.

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September 3, 2011 9:07:53 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting gmc2,
and HP is getting out of the PC business, hmmm.


would be good they make better printers than rigs sorry doc

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