[1.19] AlLanMandragoran's AI Analysis Thread

By on February 2, 2011 2:47:57 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

AlLanMandra...

Join Date 09/2010
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Purpose: Sit on my ass, cycle through turns to see what the AI does, and report my findings.

Scenario:

  • Large custom map built from "Ovia" - created an island so I can cycle turns, reduced starting positions to 10 and spread them out
  • Ridiculous across the board
  • Max players
  • Normal pacing
  • Custom sov
  • Playing as Tarth
  • Used Ctrl-U cheat to see entire map

Saves:

Factions:

  • Pariden
    • Season 12 FP 3 - No housing, Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 24 FP 10 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 36 FP 21 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in Capital's unit or improvement queue
    • Season 48 FP 26 - Not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in cities unit or improvement queues, no additional pioneers
  • Kraxis
    • Season 12 FP 3 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue
    • Season 24 FP 8 - Not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 36 FP 10 - Not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 48 FP 11 - Not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in Capital's unit or improvement queue, pioneers not founding new settlements (pathing?)
  • Gilden
    • Season 12 FP 3 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 24 FP 7 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts, not hiring all available champions
    • Season 36 FP 10 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 48 FP 19 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts, pioneers not founding new settlements (pathing?)
  • Resoln
    • Season 12 FP 5 - Not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue
    • Season 24 FP 10 - Not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue, no pioneers
    • Season 36 FP 10 - Not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 48 FP 26 - Not grabbing goodie huts
  • Yithril
    • Season 12 FP 5 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue
    • Season 24 FP 5 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue, no pioneers
    • Season 36 FP 5 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue, no pioneers
    • Season 48 FP 5 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue, no pioneers
  • Magnar
    • Season 12 FP 2 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 24 FP 3 - No housing
    • Season 36 FP 8 - None
    • Season 48 FP 9 - None
  • Capitar
    • Season 12 FP 2 - Not yet founded kingdom, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 24 FP 3 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, not hiring all available champions
    • Season 36 FP 20 - Not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 48 FP 52 - Not grabbing goodie huts
  • Altar
    • Season 12 FP 3 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 24 FP 4 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue, no unit defending additional settlement
    • Season 36 FP 4 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue, no unit defending additional settlement, no additional pioneers
    • Season 48 FP 4 - No housing, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue, no unit defending additional settlement, no additional pioneers
  • Umber
    • Season 12 FP 3 - No housing, Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts, nothing in unit build queue
    • Season 24 FP 9 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts
    • Season 36 FP 11 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts, no unit defending additional settlement, nothing in additional settlement improvement or unit queue
    • Season 48 FP 13 - Sov and spouse sitting on city tile but not stationed in city, not grabbing goodie huts, no unit defending additional settlements, nothing in additional settlement improvement queues
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February 2, 2011 4:59:43 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I think the "not grabbing goodie huts" may be due to the new AI behavior that makes them be more careful with sov and spouse. But if they don't leave home, they won't hire any other champions to grab goodie huts either.

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February 2, 2011 9:06:15 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I think this is a good idea (i.e. tracking the AI by seasons), however, you need to break down what the AI is doing more to give Brad a better feel of what the AI IS doing as much as what it's not.

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February 2, 2011 9:19:26 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting nitey47,
I think this is a good idea (i.e. tracking the AI by seasons), however, you need to break down what the AI is doing more to give Brad a better feel of what the AI IS doing as much as what it's not.

Thanks, Nitey. I actually started out doing that but then decided it might be better to limit my scope to "block and tackle" mistakes. However, I can do either. Would love to know what Brad would find helpful.

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February 2, 2011 12:51:37 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Well, since it turned out that AI can't access it's XML tags in this update, I don't think additional information with 1.19 will be useful. Next version, though, is a different thing.

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February 2, 2011 1:00:11 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Vallu751,
Well, since it turned out that AI can't access it's XML tags in this update, I don't think additional information with 1.19 will be useful. Next version, though, is a different thing.

I just checked Derek's 1.19a changelog. I don't see AI updates listed so they may not have had time to fix this before the next patch.

I'm hopeful they get it in there so I can continue the testing.

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