TheProgress

Join Date 04/2008

+43

I want your wife.

Wild demands from your heroes.

There has been talk about how gold would be worthless to someone in a post apocalyptic society. This got me thinking, what if potential heroes wanted more than just shiny heavy metal?

Perhaps heroes should have semi-random hiring costs that go outside of the gold box:

Food: hero costs the player X amount of food per turn.
Your wife: if married, wife must be traded to hero.
A share in the profits: hero takes X percent of income per turn.
Governor: hero requests an existing player owned outpost or village (the village would be turned into a an independent city, owned by the hero).
City honors: requests a player owned city to be named after them (hero leaves if name is changed later on).
Mage: hero wishes player to transfer some mana so that he/she can use magic.
etc

Thoughts? Comments?

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FutileEmotion

Cool idea, would allow for more powerful heroes that have more/on going costs. Some additional ideas:

Wants a randomly selected item purchased for him
Wants to marry your son/daughter
Requires a ritual sacrifice (one population every other year)
Requires one Quest to be completed per five years (Wanderlust)
Will disband if he leaves your territory/city (Scaredy-cat, defense oriented or for the bureaucratic type heroes)
Wants an open leash (does his own thing)>
Wants the next magic item you acquire

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These would be neat, hope the developers browse these forums. Some good ideas!

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Some of those things sound a little iffy. Giving a city to a hero to be its own faction? How do they even serve you, then?

But this is a good idea in general.

They could also ask for things that benefit them that you might be inclined to do anyway, like outfitting them in armor (or giving them a horse or a sword) or imbuing them.

PS you can have my wife, she's already borne me the maximum amount of kids anyway.

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psychoak

Join Date 07/2007

+225

You'd need a vassal system. Semi-permanent alliance with tech sharing, maybe if your vassal gets too big for his britches, he tries to take you on.

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Philocthetes

Join Date 10/2003

+153

Quoting psychoak,

reply 4

You'd need a vassal system. Semi-permanent alliance with tech sharing, maybe if your vassal gets too big for his britches, he tries to take you on.

In other words, we'd need to see a big early-plan part of the dynasty system actually implemented. Me gusta la idea, mucho. At least for Enchantress if not the base/parent game itself.

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- start war with another faction (those bastards killed my wife/husband/child/parents/cousin-four-times-removed) within the next x years
- make peace with another faction (my whatever relative lifes in their land)
- raze a city of an enemy (same reasons as above *g*) within x turns
- don't build any shrines of a specific type for at least x turns
- get x shrines of ???
- have a certain amount of goldmines (i.e. for stay-at-home heroes furthering gildar production - they won't waste their talent for someone without enough mines)
- same with libraries, metal mines etc.
- my daughter wants a pony (no wargs - horses! *g*)

and so on.. but please make sure the requirements are very clear, can be easily reviewed and the champion reminds you frequently if you don't react fast enough. Also, I think most of these requirements should be full-fillable within a certain amount of time, otherwise you have to them and then search the whole world for the wandering champion. or let them camp at one of your cities paying them x gold per turn for waiting, so you have an incentive to finish the task quickly.

another idea: after serving you awhile, your champions offer you personal quests on their behalf (like in dragon age, when you befriended your companions enough)

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These ideas are great, the idea of different types of costs to gain champions is great.

The idea of quests to either gain the champion, i.e. they need you to get something or kill someone/thing and quests coming from champions some time after they join you is great and could add a lot of character to the (erm) characters.

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ElanaAhova

Join Date 09/2008

+105

wonderful ideas. Except, perhaps giving the hero a city as an independent kingdom. perhaps if the city was a vassal, or locked into a semi-permanent alliance, perhaps it would , that might work. wonderful

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