I beat the 2gb download bug by opening impulse, then switching OFF the show beta's, then shift rightclicking in elemental and verifying, get the small (~40mb) patch to 1.09e, then switch ON the show beta's, then download the update(~45mb)

and like you I do not see any results for my efforts at posting the complete saves,crashes and all files that I am currently playing with when reporting the crashes

harpo

but us 'good error reporters' would like to know that our crashes actually HAVE been collected and might help to track the problems down, even a quick thanks reply would help us to know that our efforts ARE helping.

harpo

Most of the time you won't get a comment on your thread in here. But everything gets read, and sometimes it results in a fix. Obviously it's not as easy as "I reported it, it should be fixed".

"Good error reporters" keep reporting bugs, and expect nothing but a better game for it.

zargon, the steps that I use to go from one beta patch to the latest are as follows

1 open impulse & login

2 click on the blue stardock logo, then remove the tick on show beta's

3 hold down left shift key and right mouse click on elemental, on the menu that opens I left click on verify installation

4 download and install the update for elemental (that resets elemental to 1.09e)(patch size it typically ~40mb)

5 click on the blue stardock logo, then place a tick on the show beta's

6 download the update for elemental to the latest patch (the download has been approx 45mb)

7 delete all mods,items, effects,quests,saves,stamps & tiles folders in the my games/elemental folder

8 start elemental

and if I do NOT follow these steps then for example going from 1.09q to 1.09r or 1.09r to 1.09s with impulse would ALSO result in a 2gb download.

harpo

I've the same problem of Zargon, and I installed fresh digital.

Unlike some other guys, I didn't have this problem from the beginning, but only from the "p" subversion patch.

I have the same issue.

Fresh digital download from 1.01 or whatever it was a few days before launch and every single update. I think 1.09n was a 2 gig for me then 1.09o was 30 meg and now back to the 2 gig patches for the last 3.

Each time it has said update available and I have simply right clicked and update; afterwards it displayed recently updated.

Same here, I bought the game at the end of October via digital download.

Updates were fine up to 1.09n, but when 1.09o came out the patch file size was 1.89GB, so I had to revert to 1.09e and then get the patch, and all the latest patches, by following the same path as described by others above.

It's not really that much of a hassle, but it would be nice to be able to just update each patch on top of the old patch.

  I hear you.  It would be easy to allow the public to submit bug reports.  We would get tons of bug reports.  Some good, some bad, most somewhere between.  Sorting through all that info takes time, to much time.

  Most companies deal with this by having a small private beta team.  And even then its uncommon to get responses to individual posts (though a high percentage are read).  We have public betas, which means the signal to noise may be slightly lower (though to be honest it's amazingly good feedback) and it becomes impossible to reply to each post.

  We have a lot of issues to work through as you see from the changelog lists.  We are working hard on them, as you see from the changelog lists.  We get a high percentage of these issues from the community, so your help is invaluable.  But the process is setup to make the best use of our time instead of yours.  Which is unfair since you are helping as well, and doing it for free, but in order to get the game made we have to work in a way that makes us as efficient as possible.

  Which means right now I am the funnel that reviews the issues, checks and assigns those I see as high priority, dismisses those that I find invalid and places the lower priority issues on the post 1.1 list.

  Issues don't make it onto the Known Issues list until I have checked them.  I don't just take a report and add it to the list.  Of the issues you mentioned "Cut scenes do not respond to changes in the sound settings" is the only issue on my post 1.1 list.  For the others I'm going to need a save to check it out.

  As to issues that have been "reported for 8 months".  I can't answer that, I've only been here for a month.

  Please don't assume that things like the cloth map were a "quick fix" just because they seem to turnaround quickly.  The cloth map issue had been investigated before.  This time the developer had the time and got it figured out and fixed.  That's the nature of these things.  You may assume that we ignored a problem that we weren't able to resolve or worked on and put aside because something hot came in (like crashes).  You may assume that we finally paid attention to an issue when we come up with a fix in a day after it has been around for months.  Neither assumption is accurate.

  We try to be open and communicate as much as possible.  But it still isn't as much as everyone deserves.  To do it right I would respect the time you spend thinking about and submitting information for elemental (info I have asked for) by responding in kind.  Unfortunately it's not possible, but we do make an honest effort to be as communicative as we can.

Yes, from "p" to "s", each update was a 2 Gb update. Not only labeled as 2 Gb, but a real 2 Gb update (that with the slow Italian DSL line, is a PITA...).

Fortunatly, somebody here in the forum explained the uncheck/patch/re-check/re-patch trick, which worked for me for last 3 patches (starting from when I discovered the trick, probably it would have worked even before).

For sure I will tell you in this thread if the issue will appear again in next patch.

Edit: subversion 't' has the same problem, but probably you were speaking of a future 'u' patch.

Thanks for trying to solve this.

bug - sometimes you cant walk into a square for no reason. <--- is it raised land from water? sometimes it might look like land..when surrounding squares are raised to a certain extent.. but isn't properly raised.. so can't walk on it. most (un)fun when you order something to move in straight line only to find there's no line and ended up walking across whole continent.

regarding this... I've been seeing the 2 gig thing since the botched beta ai update just before thanksgiving. that was the one after the 1st beta patch wasn't it.

haven't bothered updating since. don't remember seeing that kind of huge file  when updating "stable" branches since the original gold digital d/l.

that said.. i did have to reinstall everything from scratch on the computer once after gold (can't remember when) but it shouldn't make a blind bit of difference as there were at least 1 stable update that wasn't 2 gig.

No, this is on normal land, in the middle of the map, and they are found any time in game, even with in the first few turns.

i downloaded the patch 1.91 gb each time - atleast it doesent do anything (wrong) it just downloads a tad more than nessesary ? is that it ?