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My suggestion: do MoM 2 yourself.

I can agree about some extra things that Elemental could have though.

Races - yes, they are very similar, actually there are only two "races" at present. But I don't want elves, dwarfes, orcs. . . 

I like this game, because it is different. Most of fantasy worlds have the same races and i an fed up with them. The present races in the game could be very cool. But they need distinction. They need different clothing, story, architecture, lands, strenght and weakness, units. They need different culture. And with that we could have a living, new fantasy world. And i think this isn't too difficult. If the game will work properly we will get this distinctions somehow.

But please, don't make a MOM, i could very love this world if the races had different cultures.

Isn't the point of beta testing to discover the bugs?  Did you really think there wouldn't be any?

I think that the problem is that EWoM is NOT the spiritual to MoM. MoM is a fantansy TBS game; EWoM is a post apocalyptic medieval world. MoM has really distinct races requiring radically different playing styles, original sovereign choices that really matter, bland through fabulous units, heroes and champions who are, with interesting and useful skills, and upgradable with the really cool weapons, armor and amulets/rings/whatever that one makes, buys or (best) wins in the extremely good tactical combat mode, a very good mana management system, buildings that matter, and is mostly about having fun, not micromanaging whether your mounted scouts will be equipped with spurs or not. EWoM has almost none of this, except truly bland units. It has the potential to be a great game; it will never be MoM2 and, as far as I can tell, no attempt has been made to be MoM2. There is very little evidence that anyone who has been involved with EWoM has ever even played MoM. Unlike me, I'm playing it now, not the 1.1 beta. Still think EWoM can be a great game. Guarantee it will never be a classic that people are still playing two decades from now. Too bad; hope someday someone will actually make the 'spiritual successor to MoM'. I also hope that Stardock turns EWoM into the game that it has the potential to be. It is too bad that EWoM has been tagged with the spiritual successor label (their own fault); it will ensure that EWoM will be most recognized for that singular, epic, fail, rather than on its own, not inconsiderable, merits.

I love trolls:)

The game was released at the end of August, stability was improved with the subsequent patches.  Since April was a beta, I think I am going to second Rune.

I hope so.  I think race specific units would be cool, but this could be accomplised with what you suggesting by having more distinct attribute bonuses, abilities, techs, and buildings would also be great.  They could all make race specific weapons or armor which in a sense would create a race specific unit.  The Tarthians could create a special bow for their woman archer corp.  Trogs could create special two handed swords to harness their larger size.  Perhaps, the Altarians could have special lances for their horseman.

Well, I'm actually considering something along those lines. The modding potential of EWoM is interesting, but with all the major changes going on there is really no point in trying to build anything until the game system settles down and we all know what we've got to work with.

Since..

.. I take it Wintersong will lend me a hand

Don't get me wrong, I really like EWoM. Stardock is a nice company that actually support their products unlike some others and I think it can turn into a nice game. They did however, botch the whole project by releasing an incomplete/extremely buggy game and then saying Ooops .. and now they're trying to fix it by basically building a new game on top of the old one. 1.1 should have been 1.0.

regards,

Tobias

Umm yeah, you're aware that 1.09n is NOT a release of the game, right?  It's a beta test...

Call it what you like if you don't like it go back to 1.09E and wait for the actual 1.1 release. I'm not suprised that there are more CTD bugs in this Beta to be honest most seem to be DX related and the rewrote parts of the rendering code as well as multithreading the AI (multithreaded code is always harder to debug).  As for minor bugs and design flaws they gutted three major game mechanic areas and rebuilt them then they needed to adjust and rebalance everything, not suprising the first pass is far from perfect and I for one downloaded the BETA knowing this would be a possibility.

Well, maybe you just should not force 'your definitions' on something, that has widely accepted definition already? Beta is not RC, its beta. Its distinctive feature over alpha/development branch is feature freeze. Pre-1.0 stuff was not exactly beta, it lacked content and features. Current pre-1.1 is as beta as it can be, and amount of bugs and their severity does not matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta

Re: the rights to Master of Magic, that's actually where Elemental started. Stardock tried to purchase them, Atari wanted too much or there were strings attached, and they started making their own instead.

Now, I will agree that the setting is to MoM as MoO3 is to MoO, which is to say "realistic" to the point of ruining the fun of the lighthearted nature of the original, but that ultimately doesn't bother me for two reasons. One, Stardock doesn't quit on their games, and at one point there was talk of having Elves, Dwarves, etc. as optional races for multiplay/sandbox. Even if it ends up in an expansion, well, they're giving those away, so it might as well be a patch if you bought in early. Two, the game is modable. The community was already working on Elves and Undead before the 1.11 overhaul, and even if their aren't enough MoM fans, anyone who likes D&D or Lord of the Rings should provide all the material we need.

The ironic thing is that the release version of MoM probably had more bugs than Elemental does presently

Yes MoM was great, i agree. But it had a buttload of flaws. My problem is that every single one of those who post of how great MoM was never tell us anything new. At all.

I just think the devs know by now how cool MoM was, really, they got it by now. Even the guy who wrote Fences must be thinking about a MoM mod for it. The next window blind comes in nature or chaos flavor with little trees and fireballs. And the next animated desktop loads MoM and play an Ai vs. Ai match on your desktop.

They tried something new and i for one like that. There is no denying that E:WoM is atm .... lacking. But either you have faith in Kael and his team or you dont.