Wow sounds like a great start here and a much needed addition.

We will need a mechanic to eventually convert cities over. Perhaps something like in AoW where you can force migrate populations. I'm playing with a few ideas right now, but it will also depend on where Stardock goes with making population more of a resource in 1.1

I'm definitely interested.  I just find myself waiting until 1.1 just to see what changes.   I realize that is probably discouraging to modders and others, but I have a feeling that most of us are waiting before playing.

That said, I am very impressed by your work Heavenfall.   Great Job on all your mods. 

I love the concept of this mod. But I'm not going to bother playing any more with the 1.0 branch so I didn't download it. When I first read about it a couple of days ago I thought 'Here's a move in the right direction.'

Honestly, we don't know how many people are actually playing Elemental. We do know that it isn't many, at least not compared to a bigger, more popular game. I think I saw that Elemental had sold something like 80,000 copies, as of a few weeks back. I'll be optomistic and round that to 100,000 total, since then, which is probably overestimating. Anyways, of those 100,000, quite a few probably gave up on the game completely, so you can throw them out of the equation. Then you have the people (as several have pointed out) that are waiting for 1.1. You also have people that don't get involved in the community or even download any mods. So out of a relatively small pool of people that even have the game, the actual number that might download a mod is probably really small. So yes, 3 is small...but I'm not expecting thousands or even hundreds of people to download any mods right now. Plus the mod did just come out...how many people have downloaded other mods? What is the largest number of downloads an Elemental mod has seen to this point? I doubt any mods are seeing really huge numbers, even compared to the rather small active player base.

As for the 'small mod' thing, for me personally I rarely play games just to test a mod. I like coming in to something like, for example, FFH, which is already big and fairly robust. It feels like a more complete experience, and thus worthy of a long game (which I prefer). Since vanilla Elemental isn't all that enjoyable right now (for me) a mod that makes one (although awesome and important change) small change isn't going to make me want to play through an entire game.

One of the benefits of working with a team is that you can give each other feedback as you build something bigger. Then you don't have to rely on the community to provide feedback on every small mod - you can get the feedback you need from people that are dedicated to giving it to you as part of a larger project.

I know it is discouraging, because you are putting lots of time into making Elemental a better game, and that benefits everyone. Don't think that it isn't appreciated. I would say that you are one of a very, very small number of people that are really driving the community right now. I know I am excited to see what you are doing, even if I'm not actually playing Elemental much right now while I wait for 1.1.

All that said, I'm going to go and download it right now and try it so I can give you some feedback.

Hmm wait... if you played Yithril, you should not have been able to build anything in a town that used to belong to Tarth. The mod should disable all buildings in towns that belong to a different Faction (empire/kingdom/elves).

Edit: Just by talking about this, I've had a much better idea. Rather than restrict it so rigorously, I can limit the building types instead. So one town can only contain one MaterialProducer1, where MaterialProducer1 may be either a labour pit or a workshop.

That way, you can continue building on the captured enemy towns, but you won't suffer the insane stacking that could happen thanks to it.

Heavenfall, I hope you'll keep producing mods. I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I don't download any mods is that to me, like Murteas and Das123, the 1.0x branch is just broken beyond anything a mod can fix. If 1.1 is anywhere close to fun, I'll start trying mods that look interesting..

Well, at least we can still TALK about all the things we want to do...and there is still quite a bit we can do, as you and others have shown. We just need to work with what we have and hope it improves.

Please don't read this thread as "stroke my ego some, please". I'm just letting people know that a dialogue between the modder and the user (or non-user) is wanted. Sometimes, it's really hard to know what people actually want in a mod. Clearly, this wasn't it.

I, for one, have tried most of the mods that have been released, so far.  Even the small ones. 

I do have a suggestion, that is really piggy-backing on a number of fine suggestions others have made.  And, please, don't think I am a control freak  -far from it.  My suggestion is that modders get together and create some sort of agreement (or come to an understanding/consensus) about how to go about modding EWoM so as to create maximum compatibility between mods.  I am not a modder, yet. 

Waiting for v1.1 is probably a wise idea,as many have suggested. 

Very nice my friend, very nice . In the next version of Undead Rising when we add in the buildings we'll probably change the Undead to be their own Faction as well. In my mind the Undead should hate ALL life, be it Kingdom or Empire.

Don't bother downloading 2.0, there's a massive bug in it.

Edit: you can rename the file inside the Undead folder to HostilePopulation_Undead_CityhubFix.xml if you want to use it until next release.

Great.   I like it.   I find it much more compelling to raze a town now to replace it with my own.   What do you think about making some sort of penalty to resource buildings (shards, gold mines, etc), when you have the town.  Or potentially to force the player to garrison the town to prevent rebellion.   Perhaps another idea would to make the population shrink over time.

Just throwing out ideas.  

My ideal solution would be that buildings in hostile towns were converted over a series of turns to those of the conquerer. Basically it would go through each building and "convert" it. That way a part of the city could be converted instead of all of it at once, and we could also visually see the city changing over time. In my opinion, the cost for converting a building should be around 10% of the original cost. Buildings that cannot be converted, ie a few faction-specific buildings, should be burned down.