Elemental: Good News Everyone!

By on May 13, 2010 1:25:19 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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After a lengthy meeting with the Network team, it was concluded that it would require a considerable amount of effort (read: expensive) to release beta 2 with it crippled (like beta 1 is) for the public.

Therefore, Beta 2 and 3 are being combined so that from here on out, all builds will be the “full beta” (minus the Workshop mod options and campaign). This way, the network team doesn’t have to put a bunch of code in to turn off certain parts for the public build versus what we use internally.

This means that starting with Beta 2 (rather than 3) you will be able to give all the feedback you want on both single player and multiplayer in terms of what you would like in the game (either before release or as a post release update).

It also means that Beta 2 (rather than 3) should start being (I dare say) fun-ish.

The updated schedule which now includes some of our post release plans can be found below:

http://forums.elementalgame.com/363845

The change does not affect the beta schedule one way or the other except that players will get the full graphics engine a bit earlier than originally planned.

When Beta 2 (rather than 3) hits, the clock starts ticking towards release. Typically, the gameplay beta (based on The Corporate Machine, GalCiv, Sins of a Solar Empire, etc.) occurs roughly 90 days prior to street date.  That isn’t a promise mind you. But it does show just how much things change in that final 90 days (GalCiv beta testers and Sins beta testers can tell you – GalCiv didn’t have starbases 90 days before street date and Sins didn’t have phase lanes or infinite resources).

Cheers!

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May 13, 2010 3:00:35 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting strager,

Quoting Tasunke, reply 17Legend of the Seeker was cancelled?

so no Season 3?
 

Join the fan campaign to keep it on the air...


And where do I sign up?

May 13, 2010 3:02:31 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting arstal,
I wonder if the Civ  5= Steam announce had something to do with this.

 
I'm sure that Stardock didn't want the two games released at the same time, but with the Civ forums being in anger over Steam, competing directly might now be a good idea.

 
 

 

I doubt that they are changing their mind based on Civ 5.  The best thing that Stardock can do for Elemental's sales and Impulse's distribution is to make Elemental the best game they can.  I'd actually say that Elemental is competing more with one of Steam's inhouse games, albeit indirectly, than Civ 5.

May 13, 2010 3:05:23 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Was I the only one expecting bad news

This is awesome though ^.^

May 13, 2010 3:05:55 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting arstal,
I wonder if the Civ  5= Steam announce had something to do with this.

 

I'm sure that Stardock didn't want the two games released at the same time, but with the Civ forums being in anger over Steam, competing directly might now be a good idea.

 

 

Stardock wasn't concerned about releasing Elemental near Civ5; they're going to release it when it's ready. From what I've gathered, Stardock is having more trouble then they expected keeping separate internal and public builds. The stripped down version we have to playtest is hard to fix without fully enabling the game engine, and that combined with the talk Frogboy had with networking has shown it's probably better just to get the internal build out, rather then wasting time finding ways to make it work with a stripped down version.

May 13, 2010 3:07:02 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Tasunke,


And where do I sign up?

 

I hope Frogboy doesn't get mad for posting this.  Please see http://www.saveourseeker.com/ for more information about the LoTS Season 3 campaign.

May 13, 2010 3:37:15 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Awsome news!! It will be cool to check out!

Screw that TV show.. We're talking Elemental here Who needs a TV??

May 13, 2010 3:42:46 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

HOLY S*&^T!!! That's the best news I've heard all MONTH!!!! Frogboy and All the Elemental Team, my hats off to you and yours!!!!

Only one, possibly stupid question. I don't see when the "Building Editor" will be enabled on that list. Maybe I missed it. Will that be saved for until the Map Editor is released? Or before? I only ask because I would like to hand design my buildings for in my cities in multi-player. People will definitely know it's Raven Xavier when they see my cities.

May 13, 2010 3:46:24 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

/glee

 

Bring on the awesome.

May 13, 2010 4:03:10 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

YAY GRAPHICS!

May 13, 2010 4:05:26 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I for one can't wait to start having fun with this!! the sooner I can see it in its full glory, the better. Stability be damned, bring the pain!!!

May 13, 2010 4:12:31 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Thank god the semester is over, is all I have to say!

May 13, 2010 4:36:37 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Damn. and I didn't bring a change of pants to work.

May 13, 2010 4:37:15 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

 

 

*happygasm* 

 

May 13, 2010 4:38:42 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

ok.....when do we get Beta 2 my excitement has now reached a fever pitch!!

May 13, 2010 5:23:02 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

HELL YA!

I won't require as much medicine to keep me going through this beta... ah... relief...

 

Yes lots of new stuff enabled! Wonderful news!

May 13, 2010 5:51:01 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

This is what I call news

 

The beta just jumped a whole main phase!   No more .5. 4. is the last one now.

May 13, 2010 5:51:45 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

 

May 13, 2010 5:56:44 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Cheers!

Now I can enjoy not having fun even more! 

May 13, 2010 6:29:50 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

May 13, 2010 6:38:14 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting GreenIsles,
A few questions:

1) How long is Beta 2 expected to last (now that it's not merely a Multiplayer test)?

2) Will Beta 2 include a Tutorial mode, or is that technically a part of the Campaign?

3) Will said Campaign be available in any of the Betas, or only in the final release?


Thanks!

1. Until we're happy with it. Though, likely not long since the tactical battles are already in internal testing. It's not Beta 3 that will potentially go long. It's beta 4.

2. No.

3. Campaign won't be in betas. We're saving that as a surprise.

May 13, 2010 6:39:11 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting FutileEmotion,

Quoting arstal, reply 24I wonder if the Civ  5= Steam announce had something to do with this.



I doubt that they are changing their mind based on Civ 5.  The best thing that Stardock can do for Elemental's sales and Impulse's distribution is to make Elemental the best game they can.  I'd actually say that Elemental is competing more with one of Steam's inhouse games, albeit indirectly, than Civ 5.

It's purely an issue of how it was getting increasingly difficult to cripple the game for the public beta.

May 13, 2010 6:58:01 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

No complaints here, none whatsoever.

May 13, 2010 7:07:58 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Thanks for the answers Brad!

I guess the only remaining question is this: WHEN will we get Beta 2???

May 13, 2010 7:11:06 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Only hope my memory crashes decrease with the next build. T_T

May 13, 2010 7:20:32 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting GreenIsles,
Thanks for the answers Brad!

I guess the only remaining question is this: WHEN will we get Beta 2???

Hopefully soon. I have to go to San Francisco later this month to start doing the marketing thing (btw, just a tip for everyone else, the marketing people hate when I refer top media tours as marketing things).

So it won't be out until after the week of the 24th when I'm visiting Gamespot, IGN, PC Gamer and so forth to grovel for coverage.

And while I don't want multiplayer to be a focus, I can't help but think there's some really great potential here because of our game mechanics to have mods that let people replay Archon 1 and 2. If you don't know what Archon is, please say nothing as you'll give me liver spots.

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