Sorry guys, there will be a beta 1z3

By on April 16, 2010 12:10:13 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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Before people groan, progress on Elemental continues across the board besides just the “game” aspect (if there are any developers reading this feel free to explain to non-developers what I mean).

Anyway, Beta 1Z2 that went up yesterday is much better than Z1 was in terms of stability and such but it’s not quite there yet.

Namely, the stuck turns and saved games need to be addressed more.  There are still reports of crashes but memory and stability seem to be adequate to proceed.

I don’t have an exact date of z3 yet but hopefully in the next week or so.

Sorry to be such a stickler here. We’re not trying to be perfectionists. We just want to make sure we produce the best possible game we can.

One other thing to note: Be wary about getting invested in the gameplay. There are already debates on various balance things. While the underpinnings are there, we expect to make a lot of radical changes between now and release.  So if you’re having fun with the beta, please don’t get too attached to anything.

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April 20, 2010 9:18:50 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting joasoze,

 I count CIV IV as the best strategy game ever made.

I have a totally different opinion about Civ 4. It's an "ok" game in my book, but that is all. It's way too simplistic and primitive in many aspects. Actually the combat system is what I hate the most in Civ4. It's just pathetic.

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April 20, 2010 9:27:06 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Tormy-,

I have a totally different opinion about Civ 4. It's an "ok" game in my book, but that is all. It's way too simplistic and primitive in many aspects. Actually the combat system is what I hate the most in Civ4. It's just pathetic.

Its the sum of the parts in CIV IV that make it so great. It doesnt have the best battle system, the best AI, the best diplomacy and so on. BUT the sum of the parts make for great minigames within the game, replayability, different avenues to explore and much more.

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April 20, 2010 10:11:11 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting joasoze,



Quoting Raven X,
reply 73

Elemental will blow Civ V away in every respect, Especially Combat.


Wow mister Raven. Fanboi alert!!!

It's not so much Fanboi-ism as it is my general dislike for Civ game-play. I used to like the Civ game back in the day but every time a new one came out there was something screwy about it. Like a Woolly Mammoth beating a M1A1 Tank or something like that. I like my strategy games to involve warfare of some kind and the war's in the Civ games never cut it for me.

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April 20, 2010 5:56:44 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Tormy-,
I have a totally different opinion about Civ 4. It's an "ok" game in my book, but that is all. It's way too simplistic and primitive in many aspects. Actually the combat system is what I hate the most in Civ4. It's just pathetic.
Boo!

I absolutely love everything touched by Firaxis; to claim that there is something wrong with the strategic combat is heresy, and should be punishable by forty whippings at dawn!

Although to be honest, I've played far, far more FFH2 than Civ4 vanilla.

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April 20, 2010 6:16:54 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Raven X,



Quoting joasoze,
reply 75



Quoting Raven X,
reply 73

Elemental will blow Civ V away in every respect, Especially Combat.


Wow mister Raven. Fanboi alert!!!


It's not so much Fanboi-ism as it is my general dislike for Civ game-play. I used to like the Civ game back in the day but every time a new one came out there was something screwy about it. Like a Woolly Mammoth beating a M1A1 Tank or something like that. I like my strategy games to involve warfare of some kind and the war's in the Civ games never cut it for me.

Hear! Hear!  I know I am in the EXTREME minority, but I thought in terms of gameplay, Civ 2 was a VERY sligh upgrade from Civ 1 and then it was all downhill after that. Yeah, they added lots of "oh! Neat!" features, but in many cases these features got in the way of playing the game, they did not add much if anything to the fun factor.

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April 20, 2010 6:42:15 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Denryu,


Hear! Hear!  I know I am in the EXTREME minority, but I thought in terms of gameplay, Civ 2 was a VERY sligh upgrade from Civ 1 and then it was all downhill after that. Yeah, they added lots of "oh! Neat!" features, but in many cases these features got in the way of playing the game, they did not add much if anything to the fun factor.

I do not believe you are an extreme minority.  I personally skipped Civ 2 (and 3 somehow) but its been expressed to me that Civ 2 was just Civ 1 with a bit more shine, nothing really missed.  

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April 20, 2010 7:08:24 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Even the Civ people have realized it's been far too long in a single idea. Which is good. But I suspect Civ 5 will get a large pass from me unless Elemental gets delayed.

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April 20, 2010 10:41:08 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I'm a pretty huge Civilization fan and look forward to Civ V.  It depresses me that people see them as competitors because a decade ago, no one would have believed that because the PC TBS market was so big that we didn't just have Civilization but there was Civilization Call to Power -- that's competitive.  

Strategy games taking place on land doesn't seem to be common enough to be competitive to me.  Unless Civ V is planning on adding quests, tactical battles, unit design, on map city building, NPCs, recruitable units, etc. they're pretty different.

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April 21, 2010 12:02:11 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Froggy, it seems like you are only looking at AAA games. I dont claim to have the numbers, but from my prespective, there are quite a few stragety games that fill those requirements minus the quests/tactical battles/unit design/ect.

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April 21, 2010 12:24:10 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Thank ya for the update frogboy. 

 

 

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April 21, 2010 7:06:20 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Have you tried to play in windowed mode...

Thank's! It works in windows mode. I should have had this idea myslef. 

The game crashes after several turns, but it is OK form me at the moment. Important thing is I may play with it around.

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April 21, 2010 8:24:15 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting thebest300,
minus the quests/tactical battles/unit design/ect.

Heh, which is why even the vanilla version of Elemental will be much better & diverse compared to those games.

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April 22, 2010 12:12:13 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

How do you play in windowed mode?  (It might be something to try for me as well, in addition to fiddling with the video settings.)

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April 22, 2010 12:34:29 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting SolarBall,
How do you play in windowed mode?  (It might be something to try for me as well, in addition to fiddling with the video settings.)

If you can bring the game up, go to the options and in video options uncheck fullscreen.  If you can't bring the game up at all, find the prefs.ini file and edit it to specify Fullscreen=0.

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April 22, 2010 6:22:08 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Pre Ordered earlier this week. Looks like I just missed the cut off to be in the beta

Any Idea when the beta will be open again? Im dieing to test!

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