Supply and Demand

By on June 22, 2009 10:06:15 PM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

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Went down town shopping and as usual called into the local game store. I noticed that there were no copies of Demigod on the shelves. So I asked the guy behind the bench why was this so?

He typed and clicked on his computer to find out what was going on.

"Oh there are 66 copies at the warehouse, so i doubt that we will get any in soon"

Why not?

"Well they supply over 350 stores and we are not as big as others."

Can't you just order some in?

"No. We get supplied with the games we can sell in store. But we can transfer a copy from another store if you like"

So you are telling me you can't order from the warehouse

"Thats right"

WTF !! Is this how retail chains operate? It seems to me that they have a huge influence on how successful a game can or could not be.

Give me Impulse anyday.

 

 

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June 23, 2009 12:22:05 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

That's nothing.  Major chains switch to central planning all the time.  Just go into Walmart and ask them why they don't follow the local seasons like anyone with half a wit would do, instead of selling lawn mowers while the snow is still on the ground in the north, while waiting a month past the growing season in the south.

 

These monolithic dinosaurs for retail chains would mostly be gone or bought out by someone with half a wit if Uncle would get the fuck out of the market, but as long as you've got a few morons doing 50% of the sales, the warehouse is going to cater to morons.

 

The joys of Communism...

 

Clarification for the idiots.  The defining trait of Communism, as opposed to Socialism in general, is central planning.  Before any liberal shit tards go crazy, think about it and see if you can figure out how Walmart is copying the communists.  I'd love to point out all the communist and fascist aspects of the current president, as well as the previous, just not by hijacking his thread with the first reply.

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June 23, 2009 1:00:39 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Having worked there, Walmart really isn't that bad about doing that shit for most of the store. It is mostly the seasonal promotions that get centrally planned, everyday sales are managed by a point of sale system so advanced and efficient the military and damn near everyone else copied it years ago. The Walmart PoS system is ironically, not a PoS.

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June 23, 2009 1:09:48 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Ironcally this system of centralized warehousing is a boon for UPS and FEDEX. We love to make money off those warehousing techniques

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June 23, 2009 1:28:47 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

I don't see anything wrong with the retail chain mentioned in the OP.  If I were to operate a store, I'll just sell Sims 2, Sims3, and World of Warcraft.  Nothing else.  Which is what some gamestops are doing.

There are risk involve with ordering 10 copies of Demigod into my store.  What if I can't sell them?  If I just order 1 copy for you from the warehouse, I don't make much profit.

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June 23, 2009 1:34:55 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

The Walmart PoS system is ironically, not a PoS.

 

Wrong.  You don't have any sales for something that isn't stocked.  An idiot with an MBA that can't think his way out of a paper bag has never worked in a store.  No matter how many times you put in an order for the fastest selling tuna around, you'll never sell more than a single case if you can't get them to stock more than a single case.

 

Oatnut bread, never more than a loaf or two.  We're constantly having to buy some other bread because it's just not there.  Starkist solid light tuna filet in olive oil, usually only a few cans of it.  They actually had four cases of the stuff a few weeks ago, we bought an entire case ourselves, someone else there at the same time was pulling cans off the shelf like they were gold too.  They're back to not having any, so I'm guessing it was a distribution screw up.  I am supposed to be a pessimist though, so maybe after several years of just one family wanting nearly their entire stock they've figured it out.  This is when we go to the Walmart in the next town over too.  The local branch has niether the good tuna, nor the Oatnut bread.  They don't have Tetley Tea either, the wankers.  It's not a super center, so it gets dick for selection, thus everyone drives to the other one.

 

The numbers look perfect, they sell every can of that tuna that gets put on the shelf inside a week, but they only sell a case or two a month because most of the time there isn't any tuna to begin with.  When the managers put in requests for more, they get ignored, because central planning is going by wrong numbers instead of listening to the managers that get bitched at by annoyed customers running around two different towns trying to find a fucking can of tuna that isn't worse than cat food.

 

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If I were to operate a store, I'll just sell Sims 2, Sims3, and World of Warcraft.  Nothing else.  Which is what some gamestops are doing.

 

Which is why Gamestop only makes money selling used video games.  I don't even bother looking at the pc game section when I'm already in Walmart for other reasons, it's not worth the effort.  Why the hell would I go to a specialty store with just as poor a selection or worse?

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June 23, 2009 1:38:01 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Seeing as Demigod is in the top 10 retail games for the PC, I don't see much risk in it.

Step 1: Stock demigod

Step 2: Profit!!

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June 23, 2009 1:56:25 AM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Sounds like you have crappy managers at either the store or the distribution center. I never noticed things we were consistently sold out of, and I remember several things we had sold out of a couple times only to majorly overstock a week later - the program is supposed to take rate of sale into consideration, so selling a whole case of something at once should wave a big red flag at someone.

Off hand, I can tell you that tuna was never a major seller in our store, but I never had to deal with the bread or tea. I still shudder at the thought of getting stuck facing the shelves in the canned meat aisle. Thank god most of my time was spent unloading trucks and moving large, heavy objects.

Ahh, memories. Ever heard someone take out an 8'x4' endcap display of light bulbs with 800 pounds of dog food? If he hadn't been the shift manager, he might have gotten in trouble for that.

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June 23, 2009 2:03:30 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Which is why Gamestop only makes money selling used video games. I don't even bother looking at the pc game section when I'm already in Walmart for other reasons, it's not worth the effort. Why the hell would I go to a specialty store with just as poor a selection or worse?

QFT.  For the past two years I have bought 100% of my games online.  Why?  Because the local stores didn't carry them!On a sidenote, Gamestop can burn for all I care. 

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June 23, 2009 2:10:31 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Out of curiosity, when were you working at Wally World?  They're on a massive downward spiral right now for selection.  It wasn't even half as bad just a couple years ago.  The clothes section keeps expanding though...

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June 23, 2009 2:24:06 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

 

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June 23, 2009 2:30:49 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Remember this when retailers whine that Internet<-Warehouse->Customer is destroying their businesses
Also, retailers aren't thrilled with the digital download system, as it cuts into their kool-aid, so to speak-- They don't overstock the shelves with Steam and Impulse games.

 

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June 23, 2009 1:00:20 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Nice I love RVB and Roosterteeth!

 

Ya... you need to hire someone whos better at logistics and even maybe marketing... and that should be their only job ie not 1 manager with multiple titles...

 

Fire them if A. there idea are making things worse and B. they are not always working out new ideas...

 

They should be making work more productive, and easier for everyone... ie not cut pay or hours for workers... that should only be a last resort and rarely used... But am draging this shit on... my 2 cents...

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June 23, 2009 4:29:55 PM from GalCiv II Forums GalCiv II Forums

Quoting psychoak,
Out of curiosity, when were you working at Wally World?  They're on a massive downward spiral right now for selection.  It wasn't even half as bad just a couple years ago.  The clothes section keeps expanding though...

I quit about 4 years ago, when I got my current job. I still have two friends who work in the optical department, both of which make more money than I do now.

They should be making work more productive, and easier for everyone... ie not cut pay or hours for workers... that should only be a last resort and rarely used... But am draging this shit on... my 2 cents...

The problem with that view is that you end up with lots of redundant people. The purpose of efficiency and productivity improvements is to maintain or improve service while reducing payroll. Just to put numbers on it: my Walmart had about 150 people working there. Your expert comes in and streamlines processes, rearranges duty assignments, etc and makes the store capable of running at the same or higher service level with 120 people, what is the point of keeping 30 people around doing nothing, when their jobs are being handled by the other 120 people?

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June 24, 2009 1:06:23 AM from Demigod Forums Demigod Forums

Part 2 ...

I live in a community of 50,000+ people.

Besides K-mart and Target who don't really stock video games, there are three other shop I can go to.

Two are of the same retail chain who specialize in just video games. The other is a huge retail shop/chain which dominate the Australian home market. You know the type beds,chairs,whitegoods,computers ect, and games.

The one I went to before was one of the video game shops. So I went downtown to the other and larger of the two to see if Demigod was down there ... Nope.

They told me, "yes we had a few copies but we sold out".

Great news I thought, but then I made the mistake of asking when are they going to get some more in.

"Sometime soon"

You don't know?

"We don't know what is on order"

Can't you check

"No sorry we don't have that information, but if you leave you name and phone number I can call you when it comes in"

No thank you!

To me this is micro management gone crazy.

The other ,we have it all for your home shop, did have a number of Demigod games. I did ask if I come in later on and they have sold out could they get one in for me.

"Yes, no worries, we can get one in anytime if you like".

I know where I will be going if i can't buy a game online ... or need a new bed.

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